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Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
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No you dont nedd it to be good at math >_> it just meens i find it easyer compared to most where as i find eblgish alot harder. Statisticly Sony major games have been better recived by reveiws and gamers than nintendos. Een gt5, though a disapointment compared to hypes till has a higher meta than wii kart. No meta isnt everythign but its a very good indicater.

Oh, I see, then. That's interesting.

Anyway, statistically, Nintendo's games have sold a lot more than Sony's. And I sincerely hope that you don't need an example, :P. No, sales aren't everything, but they're a very good indicator.


sales arnt a good indicter ateall. marketing is all sales are. bayoneta was probably one of the single best games released last year. barley sold 1 milion on ps3 and xbox combined.

In my opinion, they are.

In your opinion, they're not.

You need to be more objective in an argument.

Marketing doesn't have that huge an effect at all. If the game's good enough to attract the right people, it can sell millions with pretty much no marketing. Look at Just Dance last year, for example.


if marketing had no effect microsoft wouldnt have spent $500 million on it for kinect XD. some of the all time greats sell a 10th of games that arnt that good. wii music sold almost 3 million. did it diserve it? no. was it advertisd liek hell? yes.

Of course it has an effect. A phenomenonal effect at that, but that's not all there is to it. Advertising can push a game to a reasonable amount, but the game won't really excel unless it really appeals to people (eg. Wii Music vs. Wii Fit).

wii music wouldnt have sold more than 1 million without advertisment

Yes, it would have. Ever heard of brand name? That's what made the PS3 top 1m, honestly.

oh so then there entire advert champaign of wii musoc was totaly pointless then? And playsation is probably the second biggest hardware brand in the world. just behind ipod ^^ also i would apreshiate u not regarding me in a way that makes me apear to be interlectualy unable -.-



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Immortal on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:

oh so then there entire advert champaign of wii musoc was totaly pointless then? And playsation is probably the second biggest hardware brand in the world. just behind ipod ^^ also i would apreshiate u not regarding me in a way that makes me apear to be interlectualy unable -.-


It wasn't, obviously not, but it would've broken 1m anyway. Prolly not nearly 3m though.

Oh, and that's exactly what I meant about the PlayStation brand. Whilst I completely disagree with the PS being the second biggest brand now, it was most definitely the biggest back in 2006. That's what made the PS3 sell. Exactly what I mean.

And how am I making you look intellectually unable exactly?



 

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Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

oh so then there entire advert champaign of wii musoc was totaly pointless then? And playsation is probably the second biggest hardware brand in the world. just behind ipod ^^ also i would apreshiate u not regarding me in a way that makes me apear to be interlectualy unable -.-


It wasn't, obviously not, but it would've broken 1m anyway. Prolly not nearly 3m though.

Oh, and that's exactly what I meant about the PlayStation brand. Whilst I completely disagree with the PS being the second biggest brand now, it was most definitely the biggest back in 2006. That's what made the PS3 sell. Exactly what I mean.

And how am I making you look intellectually unable exactly?


never mind ^^ thats why alot of people are hyped about a ps4. if sony play there cards write they know they have alooooot of people rpepared to buy a playsation. they have alot of aces, but in busness if u place an ace wrong it goes VERY weong



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SaviorX on 17 December 2010

Nintendo could survive generations at this point by rebuilding off everything they ever made. So many IPs in the last 30 years its ridiculous.

I still want a new Fire Emblem with serious AAA work behind it. I mean way better 3D than the GC versions and another great story like in Path of Radiance.

Custom Robo is asking to take over Japan with some stylistic tweaks and few things are more fun than customizing mechas.

I don't condone REHASHING, but honestly, what else do you want to  play that Nintendo doesn't already make? People just want Ninty to make a shooter/action game I think. I want a few of those too, but, I'm not obsessing over it. 3rd parties are supposed to fill the tiny gap that all Nintendo's IPs leave behind. Yet those guys failed, especially EA, Tecmo, Square Enix, and Namco Bandai. If you got some actual decent product from them, we might not even be having this conversation.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

Mr Khan on 17 December 2010

There really isn't a need to, outside of trying to please people who are quite determined to not be consumers of Nintendo products in the first place.



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Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
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There really isn't a need to, outside of trying to please people who are quite determined to not be consumers of Nintendo products in the first place.

I used to love nintendo ^^



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Immortal on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

oh so then there entire advert champaign of wii musoc was totaly pointless then? And playsation is probably the second biggest hardware brand in the world. just behind ipod ^^ also i would apreshiate u not regarding me in a way that makes me apear to be interlectualy unable -.-


It wasn't, obviously not, but it would've broken 1m anyway. Prolly not nearly 3m though.

Oh, and that's exactly what I meant about the PlayStation brand. Whilst I completely disagree with the PS being the second biggest brand now, it was most definitely the biggest back in 2006. That's what made the PS3 sell. Exactly what I mean.

And how am I making you look intellectually unable exactly?


never mind ^^ thats why alot of people are hyped about a ps4. if sony play there cards write they know they have alooooot of people rpepared to buy a playsation. they have alot of aces, but in busness if u place an ace wrong it goes VERY weong

I don't agree. A huge mistake Sony made with PS1/PS2 was not having heavy hitters (huge proportion of console sales) and not having the well selling games first party. That way, all the casual PS2 players didn't have much to recognize the brand by. It'll be hard to bring older gamers from then back now. That's one of the much better things Sony's doing this generation though, :D.



 

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Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

oh so then there entire advert champaign of wii musoc was totaly pointless then? And playsation is probably the second biggest hardware brand in the world. just behind ipod ^^ also i would apreshiate u not regarding me in a way that makes me apear to be interlectualy unable -.-


It wasn't, obviously not, but it would've broken 1m anyway. Prolly not nearly 3m though.

Oh, and that's exactly what I meant about the PlayStation brand. Whilst I completely disagree with the PS being the second biggest brand now, it was most definitely the biggest back in 2006. That's what made the PS3 sell. Exactly what I mean.

And how am I making you look intellectually unable exactly?


never mind ^^ thats why alot of people are hyped about a ps4. if sony play there cards write they know they have alooooot of people rpepared to buy a playsation. they have alot of aces, but in busness if u place an ace wrong it goes VERY weong

I don't agree. A huge mistake Sony made with PS1/PS2 was not having heavy hitters (huge proportion of console sales) and not having the well selling games first party. That way, all the casual PS2 players didn't have much to recognize the brand by. It'll be hard to bring older gamers from then back now. That's one of the much better things Sony's doing this generation though, :D.


No realy ^^ The age of anual home consols is dying and Sony and Microsoft know thta because there part of the reason. As the internet gets faster things such as online are going to kill home consols for good. Nintendo's gamble to make a new consol that does something different wont work because it could easily be mimicked in an instant for things such as onlive. The problem for nintendo is sony and microsoft are started sing cloud based technoligy long befoe anyone evn thought of it for games. if i had to guess id say next gen either sony of microsoft are going to join or apple is gona join with one of them. none of the big three have enough money to fund the growing costs of development expeshaly in a world where technoligy advances so quickly. The playstation brand howvere wether the people who got it or not liked it os the most well none gaming platform in the world. EVERYONE who knows what gaming is will know what a playsation is and may know what a wii is.

If like i and many toher think gaming i going cloudi think nintendo will have to change to being a software company. they simply dont have the resorces to match other cloud networks, as theywould have to start from scrath or payu a incredible amount of money to gte it off someone else. im gona make a thjread about this know ^^



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O-D-C on 17 December 2010

Nintendo's created the most new IP's this gen I think...



Immortal on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

oh so then there entire advert champaign of wii musoc was totaly pointless then? And playsation is probably the second biggest hardware brand in the world. just behind ipod ^^ also i would apreshiate u not regarding me in a way that makes me apear to be interlectualy unable -.-


It wasn't, obviously not, but it would've broken 1m anyway. Prolly not nearly 3m though.

Oh, and that's exactly what I meant about the PlayStation brand. Whilst I completely disagree with the PS being the second biggest brand now, it was most definitely the biggest back in 2006. That's what made the PS3 sell. Exactly what I mean.

And how am I making you look intellectually unable exactly?


never mind ^^ thats why alot of people are hyped about a ps4. if sony play there cards write they know they have alooooot of people rpepared to buy a playsation. they have alot of aces, but in busness if u place an ace wrong it goes VERY weong

I don't agree. A huge mistake Sony made with PS1/PS2 was not having heavy hitters (huge proportion of console sales) and not having the well selling games first party. That way, all the casual PS2 players didn't have much to recognize the brand by. It'll be hard to bring older gamers from then back now. That's one of the much better things Sony's doing this generation though, :D.


No realy ^^ The age of anual home consols is dying and Sony and Microsoft know thta because there part of the reason. As the internet gets faster things such as online are going to kill home consols for good. Nintendo's gamble to make a new consol that does something different wont work because it could easily be mimicked in an instant for things such as onlive. The problem for nintendo is sony and microsoft are started sing cloud based technoligy long befoe anyone evn thought of it for games. if i had to guess id say next gen either sony of microsoft are going to join or apple is gona join with one of them. none of the big three have enough money to fund the growing costs of development expeshaly in a world where technoligy advances so quickly. The playstation brand howvere wether the people who got it or not liked it os the most well none gaming platform in the world. EVERYONE who knows what gaming is will know what a playsation is and may know what a wii is.

If like i and many toher think gaming i going cloudi think nintendo will have to change to being a software company. they simply dont have the resorces to match other cloud networks, as theywould have to start from scrath or payu a incredible amount of money to gte it off someone else. im gona make a thjread about this know ^^

Till I see the combined sales of the home consoles declining for a generation, I refuse to believe so. Do you know how many times random developments in technology have supposedly threatened the industry?

And honestly, cloud based technology is much farther off than you make it sound.

Oh, and why do you always make threads out of our discussions? Am I really that inspirational, :P?



 

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