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ssj12 said:
MonstaMack said:

lawlz @ PS3 sales.

Though this weekend PS3's come with $100 gift cards.

Based off working at walmart last year, ill tell you those gift cards are a massive selling point. Customers looked at it this way. You pay regular price, but can get several games, a game and part of the price of a controller, or this year the PlayStation Move bundle with that added $100. Its the samething with the gift cards with the other consoles. Most bought the console and saved the card for Wii Sports since the Wii gift card was only $50 last year.


Yeap I know. I also work at Wal-Mart (still do) and can tell you we should sell 60 this weekend depending on stock.



It's just that simple.

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kowenicki said:
UncleScrooge said:
askel50 said:
 

Perhaps you are right, but frankly I don't see anything that can justify wii doubling 360 sales, even for a week. The only way this could happen is if the 360 is seriously undershipped and I don't think it is. Anyway we will never know the truth because NPD doesn't release weekly information, so we'll have to stick to monthly comparison.


Of course there is a justification - the Wii had an additional positive effect on its sales (giftcard) while the Xbox360 had two negative ones (wait for giftcard and supply issues).

It should have been clear to most people that the Wii would see huge Christmas sales:

1) Nintendo platforms see higher christmas increases because they are often bought as christmas presents

2) The Wii wasn't down during the year because consumer interest had wayned but because it didn't get any games. There was just one million seller before October or so and that was Mario Galaxy 2, the third Mario game on the Wii obviously didn't push any hardware.

3) The Xbox360 got a redesign some months ago. Obviously that pushed its sales up additionally.

4) The Wii has a very great christmas line-up this year (and games from last year that are still selling great) and Nintendo put out lots of bundles for the first time.

Take all those effects into account and it is completely logical the Wii boost during Christmas would be astronomical. But most of the time people just compare numbers. They see a console selling bad for like 3 months and assume it is "doomed". That's also why Xbox360 and Playstation 3 constantly change places in "who's gonna be 2nd" discussion. Two months of great sales for console "X" and people assume it'll stay that way forever :-p

Whilst I agree with some of what you have said... imo point 2 is utterly irrelevant.

Are you saying that new potential Wii adopters weren't drawn in by Wii Sports, WSR, MK, NSMB etc etc.? After 4 or 5 years it is game libraries that attract new adopters not a specific game release. 

Nope. I'm saying software that is more than a year old isn't going to push 300k systems a week. Of course it is the game library that attracts new users but new games surely help to push sales. Are you saying sales for any system will stay flat and not decrease without any major new releases?

New games will always pull in new users. It also increases awareness in the system, new games get ads and a steady flow of releases makes people feel the system is till alive and kicking.

When the DS in Japan stopped getting the big number of releases it got before sales went down. When the Wii didn't get many games the sales went down. The Gameboy was way down when Pokemon hit the market. Same goes for the PSP and Monster Hunter (2nd and 3rd). Both had been on the market longer than the Wii has been now. During the last investor meeting Iwata said sales for the DS are down because there is no new hit software on the market.

If customers feel your product isn't being supported anymore they won't buy it. In the games industry you may redesign your console, drop the price or put out new games - these things all help to keep interest in your platform high.

If there was no steady stream of releases on the HD consoles they'd drop as well. Wii software selling huge numbers doesn't mean it is abe to keep system sales alive for years without new releases.

I agree with you it is not a specific game release that attracts new users in most cases. But a big flow of releases surely pushes hardware. In the Wii's case the combination of Wii Party, Just Dance, uDraw, Epic Mickey and Donkey Kong definitely pushed hardware this holiday season. And the long draught during the rest of the year reduced interest in the platform.



morenoingrato said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
morenoingrato said:
tombi123 said:
ASStronaut said:
radiantshadow92 said:

dayum, GT5 is on a roll.

Yeah, the only way anything can roll is downhill. LMFAO.


It went up this week.

Can't even troll properly. Pathetic.

It was outsold by MKWII

Also, what he meant is that according to the laws of phisic, nothing can roll uphill


few things

1. as you obviously know it was a figure of speech..and things can roll uphill too with some force applied to it, or along the flat ground lol, but then again not sure what laws of phisic say about it

2. Never knew GT5 was competing with MKwii to be compared? Not for the same audience, might as well compare FPS on HD consoles to Wii ones. ;)

Seriously this pathetic GT5 trolling every week is getting annoying, the game is doing just fine in sales. Should hit 4-4.5 mil by years end I guess, which are great numbers.

He was the one who called him troll, and it wasn't even trolling, it was a small joke.

I should also call trolls the undertracked babies.

I also brought in MK to contradict his insult.

Thanks.

It's just a joke guys.



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Maynard_Tool said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Maynard_Tool said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
morenoingrato said:
tombi123 said:
ASStronaut said:
radiantshadow92 said:

dayum, GT5 is on a roll.

Yeah, the only way anything can roll is downhill. LMFAO.


It went up this week.

Can't even troll properly. Pathetic.

It was outsold by MKWII

Also, what he meant is that according to the laws of phisic, nothing can roll uphill


few things

1. as you obviously know it was a figure of speech..and things can roll uphill too with some force applied to it, or along the flat ground lol, but then again not sure what laws of phisic say about it

2. Never knew GT5 was competing with MKwii to be compared? Not for the same audience, might as well compare FPS on HD consoles to Wii ones. ;)

Seriously this pathetic GT5 trolling every week is getting annoying, the game is doing just fine in sales. Should hit 4-4.5 mil by years end I guess, which are great numbers.


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LOL you're joking right? show me how many posts in this thread that talk about how the HD FPS sales are bitch slapping the wii FPS sales this week? how many posted side by side comparisons of COD ps3/360 vs COD Wii?

So no, there are plenty of games and genre's that can be compared to try and show how weak wii can be in those departments, but that's useless.


1.- Not, no joke here.

2.- I wasn't talking about people doing it in this thread. They've done it in the past, and I know you have seen it.

3.- And no, I don't have time to look for posts to show you. You are a capable man, if you are interested, you can do it yourself. But everyone here has seen it, you know, I know it... everyone knows it.

It was just a joke. Everyone calm the smeg down.



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The big question for American sales is when will MS get more 250 GB(with or without Kinect) in stock?  You can't find them anywhere in the retail chain and the secondary markert is selling them at the startting price of $550.  Best buy doesn't even have it as an option on their website anymore for the kinect model, it's just gone, no sold out online, or anything.  Not sure how many will MS will be shipping this quater but it's safe to say whatever they ship is sold.



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optoma1990 said:

why do the wii haters not realize that nintendo is actaully a respected company with parents but sony and microsoft aren't...as much they are seen as borderline games for their teenagers. Nintendo just dish out playability without the gore (what a refreshing idea!) It's not just the gameplay that both Microsoft and Sony can buy it's the trust in the Nintendo name. Big LOL at Microsoft with their so called world class kinect system being outsold 2-1 in theirown backyard during their biggest selling season. Just wait until N change the price to $99 then you wil lsee some s**t fly.

Everything you said in this post is sweet music to my ears.



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ssj12 said:
Raze said:
adsl said:
Raze said:

Undertrack, Undertrack, Undertrack HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

LOL


Best joke of the day!

hahah thanks =D

I disagree, the joke is flawed by the way you failed to match what Liono (sp?) says.

It should have been

"Under, under, under, Undertracked, hoooooooooooooo"

true that. it's only been, about 23-24 years since I last saw it. Damn this faulty memory =P



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Raze said:
ssj12 said:
Raze said:
adsl said:
Raze said:

Undertrack, Undertrack, Undertrack HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

LOL


Best joke of the day!

hahah thanks =D

I disagree, the joke is flawed by the way you failed to match what Liono (sp?) says.

It should have been

"Under, under, under, Undertracked, hoooooooooooooo"

true that. it's only been, about 23-24 years since I last saw it. Damn this faulty memory =P

You must be near your thirties if it's been that long (or even older).



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Mummelmann said:
Metallicube said:
Nintendogamer said:
eliasg said:
Nintendogamer said:
eliasg said:

imo wii is overtracked , i cant find a single reason why is outselling 2:1 the best selling console of November.


How do you know? Wii is on fire in the holidays you should know this.


i know... but 2:1????? is that possible, with kinect out there???


maybe kinect is selling mostly to existing 360 owners,  maybe wii has been out for 4 years and lots of people know about it where as not many know about kinect just yet.

I tried to tell people this but nobody seems to listen.. I seriously doubt that there are that many people willing to shell out $300 JUST for an add on that currently supports 16 games, and only has 3 or 4 with ratings over the 80% range.

Now in all fairness, 360 is still selling strongly, and I do actually believe it may be a little undertracked this week. However, the fact that Kinect is pushing all these 360s I believe is a myth. What's mainly pushing the consoles is the continued effect of the slimline model, which offers far more value as well as simply more reliable, as well as the mega hits Halo Reach and Black Ops. GAMES are what sells consoles, not peripherals

That does not bode well for the Vitality Sensor that you and a lot of others claim is going to skyrocket Wii hardware sales and keep it on top next year, now does it? Or are Nintendo peripherals exempt from this rule?

PS: I don't think that Kinect is the main seller for hardware this holiday season either though, it appears to be a combination of factors; blockbuster games, good bundles, good price, console re-design and Kinect all put together is bound to have a good effect.

Vitality Sensor could very well bomb, or explode in sales, it will depend on its games, particularly its flagship title, Wii Relax. I personally think there is a huge untapped market out there for a sort of meditation/relaxation video game, so I think it'll sell like gangbusters, and lift the peripheral and console sales with it. But it will be the GAME that will make or break the hardware, not the other way around. Obviously people are not gonna buy the peripheral to admire its appearance of stick their finger in the hole (lol inuendo), they will buy it to play Wii Relax.



askel50 said:

I bet vgchartz is overtracking the wii, sorry but after november NPD I don't buy those 360 x 2 sales.

With basically a $20 or more price cut in NA since BF week it is likely Wii sales accelerated.  We saw that immediatly BF weekend with the $169 price at Best Buy all weekend. These deals are making the Wii an easy impulse buy and the availability is amazing.  The poor sales over the summer and fall allowed Wii inventory to build up.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.