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psrock on 15 December 2010

Sony keeps dying in every thread you make. I came to disscuss bestbuy, right?



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PullusPardus on 15 December 2010

@OP

do you seriously spend each living moment trying to find something negative to post about Sony?



The Ghost of RubangB on 15 December 2010
Wagram said:
Darth Tigris said:
Wagram said:

I dislike 3D in every shape and form so this makes me happy.

Do you have one eye or something?


Nope. I do wear glasses so that adds to the problem. I think 3D actually degrades what-ever you are watching, It makes it harder to see (darkens the picture) as well as it costs more money. It is a complete and utter waste of technology.

You never had a cool 3D comic book growing up?



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Grimes on 15 December 2010
PizzaFaceGamer said:
Darth Tigris said:

So Sony Corp is going to have a bad financial quarter for the holidays not even including gaming.  What a mess ...


well they said e-readers were popular and sony sells those.

So too early to say, but looks like they will be hurting a bit


The iPad and Kindle are dominating the market. That market has flown the coop already.



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melbye on 15 December 2010

I am a selfish bastard who want 3D to die, because i can't experience it so this makes me happy



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FinalEvangelion on 15 December 2010
PullusPardus said:

@OP

do you seriously spend each living moment trying to find something negative to post about Sony?


The sad thing is that he probably hates Sony because they are Japanese and not American.  If his post history is anything to go by.



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Raze on 16 December 2010
superchunk said:
Raze said:

The issue is two-fold:

1. People don't want to wear 3D glasses in their living room. This is the very reason why 3D TV didn't happen sooner. 3D is a luxury for the theaters only, and only once in a while. When TVs come out that interpret the 3D graphics without the need for wearing glasses, people will warm up to the idea. Also, people are still or recently have bought HDTVs, and are reluctant to go out and make another big TV purchase anytime soon.

2. Most people have a device connecting their TV to the internet. Most people have a gaming console for themselves, or their kids, etc. Each of the 3 current gen consoles have online capabilities. I've shown my friends YouTube videos on my OOOOLLLLD 32 inch tv via the Wii. For those without consoles, they may have something else, like a Roku or other internet-capable device. Internet TV is a good idea, but not a good idea right now.

I would argue a little different.

1. People dont want to wear EXPENSIVE 3D glasses. Had the companies utilized the passive system with the cheap glasses where you could by 10 for $20, it would be a far bigger hit.

2. yeah.. my TV can do net stuff, but my PS3 or Wii just does it better, and a great number of households have these devices already. Though Google TV may change that entirely.

No, really, people don't want to wear ANY 3D glasses. No one wants to look like a reject, and there are no such thing as "cool" 3D glasses. 2nd point valid when Google TV DOES change things. =)



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ssj12 on 16 December 2010
Raze said:
superchunk said:
Raze said:

The issue is two-fold:

1. People don't want to wear 3D glasses in their living room. This is the very reason why 3D TV didn't happen sooner. 3D is a luxury for the theaters only, and only once in a while. When TVs come out that interpret the 3D graphics without the need for wearing glasses, people will warm up to the idea. Also, people are still or recently have bought HDTVs, and are reluctant to go out and make another big TV purchase anytime soon.

2. Most people have a device connecting their TV to the internet. Most people have a gaming console for themselves, or their kids, etc. Each of the 3 current gen consoles have online capabilities. I've shown my friends YouTube videos on my OOOOLLLLD 32 inch tv via the Wii. For those without consoles, they may have something else, like a Roku or other internet-capable device. Internet TV is a good idea, but not a good idea right now.

I would argue a little different.

1. People dont want to wear EXPENSIVE 3D glasses. Had the companies utilized the passive system with the cheap glasses where you could by 10 for $20, it would be a far bigger hit.

2. yeah.. my TV can do net stuff, but my PS3 or Wii just does it better, and a great number of households have these devices already. Though Google TV may change that entirely.

No, really, people don't want to wear ANY 3D glasses. No one wants to look like a reject, and there are no such thing as "cool" 3D glasses. 2nd point valid when Google TV DOES change things. =)

And gamers dont look like rejects playing with the Wii, Move, or Kinect? heck even Rock Band equipment?



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binary solo on 16 December 2010

I dunno why this is especially bad for Sony, because the most promoted 3D TVs in this part of the world are Samsung and LG. So it seems like those brands are as heavily invested in 3D as Sony, if not moreso.

Also why so bad for Bestbuy but no other TV retailers? Did Bestbuy back 3D/internet TV much more than others?

On 3D itself, I have no interest in glasses required 3D active, passive or otherwise. Don't even like it at the movie theatre. I think it's best application is for gaming, but it's still rather gimmicky even then.

Somehow Nintendo is gonna make it popular with 3DS, even though that seems rather gimmicky to me too.

Also I didn't see one place in either of the articles in the OP where Sony is mentioned. How do we know that Sony TVs are selling badly? Maybe (unlikely I know) it's only Sony TVs that are selling half way decent and all the other 3D TVs are doing badly.



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Darth Tigris on 16 December 2010
binary solo said:

I dunno why this is especially bad for Sony, because the most promoted 3D TVs in this part of the world are Samsung and LG. So it seems like those brands are as heavily invested in 3D as Sony, if not moreso.

Also why so bad for Bestbuy but no other TV retailers? Did Bestbuy back 3D/internet TV much more than others?

On 3D itself, I have no interest in glasses required 3D active, passive or otherwise. Don't even like it at the movie theatre. I think it's best application is for gaming, but it's still rather gimmicky even then.

Somehow Nintendo is gonna make it popular with 3DS, even though that seems rather gimmicky to me too.

Also I didn't see one place in either of the articles in the OP where Sony is mentioned. How do we know that Sony TVs are selling badly? Maybe (unlikely I know) it's only Sony TVs that are selling half way decent and all the other 3D TVs are doing badly.


You're right, other manufacturers and retailers will be affected negatively by this too.

Sony was likely mentioned because, since this is a gaming site, Sony is the only one of those manufacturers that has a major stake in gaming.  Quarterly financials for Sony will be posted and discussed here while the others won't.  

So, long story short, we actually care about Sony's performance here.  : )