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Forums - General - Riots in the UK about tuition fee increases - an observation

routsounmanman on 10 December 2010
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
routsounmanman said:

People over here (Greece) are starting to get REALLY angry because of the measures taken:

1. VAT 4% up to 23%!!!

2. Public sector wages 20% - 40% down

3. Private sector wages 10% - 20% down

4. 30% of companies are either shutting down or facing serious ecocomic issues

5. Gas 80% up in 6 month period

6. Working contracts redefined : Companies can now sack without compensation

7. Lowest wage from ~700 Euros to 520 Euros

8. Unemployment and Suppression's of the charts

I hope some kind of revolution is in the works; We are getting pummeled to the ground and paying the price while some few are getting ridiculously rich. I don't know what caused the crisis in UK, but in Greece it sure is corruption and a huge public sector (17% of the population!). None of which are being looked into >_>

I sure hope we leave the Euro. And I also hope you never embrace it; the only country who thrives through it seems to be Germany... We must riot against the real culprits here, not on each other (our Goddamn politicians)

What do the troubles of Greece have to do with the euro or Europe? 

Greece cooked the books (to get into the euro) and spend money it didn't have for a long time. Now its paying the price.

A country with strong exports needs a weak currency to be competitive, especially a small one, like Greece. Now, if you're wondering, we're "exporting" tourism. People prefer to spend their vacation in countries like Turkey due to strong Euro.

Also, Greece's problems were caused due to CORRUPTION, not excess spending (except public sector)! Most of the people here evade taxes (don't know the exact word), from politicians to doctors, lawyers, architects, everyone! And instead of fighting corruption, they increase taxes and lower wages, further economically suffocating the population (Greece has the lowest wages in all of EU along with Portugal)



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Chibi.V.29 on 10 December 2010
Serious_frusting said:

I am a student and i could have gone to these stupid rallies but i didnt.

 

They should get fucking over it and get a job to help pay for the fees. bloody idiots.

 


This guy here has got it 100% write (^.^) im only 15 so im gona be living through these cuts at nui. the dif between me and alot of people i know is im not the one smashing stuff down XD



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Chibi.V.29 on 10 December 2010
Seece said:

They disgust me, putting it plainly, yes even the ones protesting peacfully.

Everyone else is this country is suffering, having cut backs, why should they be let off? They're acting like brats. I say smoke bomb, tazer, and C45 them.


I also like this guy :3 yaaaay for common sense! expeshaly the c45ing them XDDDD i jk :P



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NiKKoM on 10 December 2010

good, force students to be better at studying and finishing your study on time.. I spend 5 years (4 years is normal in the Netherlands) but I have friends who are spending 8 years in a university cause you while our study grant lasts for 4 years, you can loan up to 8 years..

not to mention I spend most of my grants and loan on videogames, drinking, more videogames and even more drinking.



 

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NiKKoM on 10 December 2010
Kasz216 said:

Yeah.  I saw they attacked the Prince.  They know he doesn't set tuition fees right?

It feels like some people in europe just like a good riot.

You know what happens when tuition fees and stuff like that happens in the US?   A walkout.   Everyone in the school just leaves the school in protest and does something else... or at best holds up a few signs and walks away.

I blame football (soccer).. Does the US even have Hooligans?



 

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NiKKoM on 10 December 2010
Kasz216 said:

Yeah.  I saw they attacked the Prince.  They know he doesn't set tuition fees right?

It feels like some people in europe just like a good riot.

You know what happens when tuition fees and stuff like that happens in the US?   A walkout.   Everyone in the school just leaves the school in protest and does something else... or at best holds up a few signs and walks away.

I blame football (soccer).. Does the US even have Hooligans?



 

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Chibi.V.29 on 10 December 2010
NiKKoM said:

good, force students to be better at studying and finishing your study on time.. I spend 5 years (4 years is normal in the Netherlands) but I have friends who are spending 8 years in a university cause you while our study grant lasts for 4 years, you can loan up to 8 years..

not to mention I spend most of my grants and loan on videogames, drinking, more videogames and even more drinking.


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milkyjoe on 10 December 2010

It's worth pointing out that a percentage of the trouble makers won't actually be students, rather those types who just go along to these protests with the deliberate aim of causing trouble.

Still, if the Lib Dems had shown some balls and stuck to their principles rather than selling out to Dave and his cronies for a bit of limelight, we might not even be seeing these protests.

At least the Lib Dems will never get anywhere close to power ever again.



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highwaystar101 on 10 December 2010
Kasz216 said:

Yeah.  I saw they attacked the Prince.  They know he doesn't set tuition fees right?


That made me angry. It's the most inappropriate, misplaced anger ever. The prince has always made it known that he supports British education system and its students strongly. The students that attacked him clearly didn't understand this.



Kasz216 on 10 December 2010
NiKKoM said:
Kasz216 said:

Yeah.  I saw they attacked the Prince.  They know he doesn't set tuition fees right?

It feels like some people in europe just like a good riot.

You know what happens when tuition fees and stuff like that happens in the US?   A walkout.   Everyone in the school just leaves the school in protest and does something else... or at best holds up a few signs and walks away.

I blame football (soccer).. Does the US even have Hooligans?

Not a lot...  though apparently some... thanks to Soccer (football).

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/39668-hooliganism-is-ever-present-in-the-us

 

There will be the occasional riot when a team wins a world championship, but that's about it in the other sports... and we don't usually see much protetst wise (outside huge events like race riots.)

One reason I think is because generally the US turns pretty harshly on protestors who do start breaking shit.  Also, our police carry guns. 

So...

I could never see an angry gang of hooligans like attacking a group of police because of this.