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kamil said:
@i love xbox 360: Well, I read it but didn't find it very informative.

 look on the right hand side it should say  'A close look at the Reform Treaty'  click on that and it explains the treaty and the president 



 

 

kitler53 said:
i like this, it brings us one step closer to a world government and i like that idea. with any luck maybe the EU will absorb the USA and then we'll have a check and balance on our leadership.

I like my personal liberties and incredibly stable constitution, thanks anyway.

Way too many rules and far too much socialism over there. My family left the "old world" for a reason

As far as the 1 world government thing, no way would I want anything like that. As a citizen of the USA, soon to be constitutional lawyer, gun owner, and one who appreciates the full extent of free speech, I want nothing to do with the EU except friendship and trade.

I'm not willing to give up the level of personal liberty I have just so the world can hold hands and feel safer and better about itself.

I sincerely doubt it would ever happen anyway. Our government would never give up its sovereignty, and in the billion to 1 chance of that happening in all likelyhood the people would revolt.

I'm happy for the EU if that's what the EU wants, my guess is this is going to go through a lot of growing pains, though. War, governments wanting to separate from the union, individuals not recognizing the sovereignty of the EU, not to mention brutally raping any hole in the constitution. It took us a revolution and a few hundred Supreme Court trials to get ours down to a pretty solid setup.

Hell, we don't even want a North American Union here, so a bunch of people across the pond stand even less of a chance.

*Superchunk, it probably wouldn't start out with our Bill of Rights. We're the only country that has freedom speech (except death threats on the president, for obvious security reasons) and expression**. No way would the EU allow us to have guns, either.

**Absolute, unbridged freedom of speech. As they tell you day 1 in civil liberties law: you're either in favor of freedom of speech precisely for the people you find reprehensible (neo nazis, KKK, holocaust deniers, dickheads in general), or you're not in favor of freedom of speech.



i think the usa will be worried about the new eu, the eu has more power than america in many areas. the eu is the biggest importer and 2nd biggest exporter in the world so it has alot of power. The eu can stop american compaines taking over other american compaines this show that the eu has a massive amount of power in the world.



 

 

i love xbox 360 said:
i think the usa will be worried about the new eu, the eu has more power than america in many areas. the eu is the biggest importer and 2nd biggest exporter in the world so it has alot of power. The eu can stop american compaines taking over other american compaines this show that the eu has a massive amount of power in the world.

We've always been on pretty friendly terms with Europe. I don't see any conflict. If there's going to be any conflict to come out of the EU, it'll be internal. 



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cAPSLOCK said:
i love xbox 360 said:
i think the usa will be worried about the new eu, the eu has more power than america in many areas. the eu is the biggest importer and 2nd biggest exporter in the world so it has alot of power. The eu can stop american compaines taking over other american compaines this show that the eu has a massive amount of power in the world.

We've always been on pretty friendly terms with Europe. I don't see any conflict. If there's going to be any conflict to come out of the EU, it'll be internal.


well we might have been friendly in the past but that was when the usa was the only superpower in the world and saw us as not a threat, but as the eu turns into a superpower (economicly not military) they usa will become more worried beacuse counties do not have to do wot america wonts them to do caz they arnt the only superpower in the world anymore  



 

 

Not a good idea, in my opinion.



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cAPSLOCK said:
kitler53 said:
i like this, it brings us one step closer to a world government and i like that idea. with any luck maybe the EU will absorb the USA and then we'll have a check and balance on our leadership.

 

*Superchunk, it probably wouldn't start out with our Bill of Rights. We're the only country that has freedom speech (except death threats on the president, for obvious security reasons) and expression**. No way would the EU allow us to have guns, either.

 


 In the first place why do you want a gun for?






i love xbox 360 said:
cAPSLOCK said:
i love xbox 360 said:
i think the usa will be worried about the new eu, the eu has more power than america in many areas. the eu is the biggest importer and 2nd biggest exporter in the world so it has alot of power. The eu can stop american compaines taking over other american compaines this show that the eu has a massive amount of power in the world.

We've always been on pretty friendly terms with Europe. I don't see any conflict. If there's going to be any conflict to come out of the EU, it'll be internal.


well we might have been friendly in the past but that was when the usa was the only superpower in the world and saw us as not a threat, but as the eu turns into a superpower (economicly not military) they usa will become more worried beacuse counties do not have to do wot america wonts them to do caz they arnt the only superpower in the world anymore


 Why wouldnt it still be friendly? The US and EU can compete together and could lead to healthy competition. Im more worried about China becoming a Superpower than the EU as they could be militarily and economically superior to the US in time. 



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