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Yes, I'm an atheist, but I think it deserves a little more explanation.

I can't tell you whether God(s) exist, I have little information to go by. So I guess in that respect you can call me agnostic. However, I'm 99% certain that one doesn't exist, I just don't see how a creator fits in with our understanding of the Universe.

As for personal Gods, I certainly don't believe in one. I just don't see any personal God(s) as compatible with what we know. I'm 100% certain that one doesn't exist.

People can believe what they like, but I personally just see the idea of a God as a piece of a jigsaw puzzle that just doesn't fit anywhere.



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dharh said:
mhsillen said:

You make it sound like mutations are a good thing

 

And Darwins Ideas are not believed by modern scientists

 

People who don't believe in God are so defensive and ready for the attack on believers. A god or not a god nothing has been proven 

 

Mutations are negative and the chance for just the spark of life in the primordial soup is no astronomical as to be impossible.  Yet these impossible odds continue to happen?

 

On any other subject scientists would call such statistics as impossible not not this one subject.

 


Gonna try to not get drawn into the debate about the 'spark of life' argument, however, genetic change over time is inevitable, good or bad. It is literally inbuilt into how life functions. Mutations, are random change, most of them bad indeed, some of them good.

 

Ok, so i'll say only one thing about the spark of life thing. Life is merely a very complex set of chemical reactions, in which these reactions are dictated/run by DNA. The simplest organism on the planet is not that far removed the a crap load of random chemical reactions meshed together. Given that, its not necessarily impossible that such 'soups' have been or even now can be found on the earth.

 

Granted, such supposition not evidence and not much better than claims of god. The problem only arrises in the god argument, when lots of completely unfounded claims are added to the question of whether god or gods do or do not exist. 

 

Darwins central theme is indeed believed by modern scientists. That being change over time. All the rest can be easily discarded as a man at the forfront of a fields not yet mature or even invented yet. That being genetics and biodiversity.

mhsillen said:

And the thing that really gets me is the brain.  It is capable of so much more info gathering and recording.  But in our lifetime a small part gets used.  Why would evolution design it like that.

 

That's because its a myth that we don't 'use' a large part of our brains. 

 

 



agreed



Mummelmann said:

This will end well...

I'm an atheist and so are the vast majority of my friends. I respect that other people believe otherwise and in turn I expect them to respect me for not believeing in a diety or supreme being.


I should have just said that. lol

 



bannedagain said:
Chairman-Mao said:

This thread lasted 6 posts before someone had to go on a religious rant instead of just a yes or no. 



Look at the way they got disgusted because someone wasn't a christain. Christain hand it to us non believers daily.

So I gave a little back and it wasn't a rant it was my thoughts and a little science and logic.

It's a blog!


It's not you, its just that these religion threads are getting a bit old. We have one like once a week and it always ends up the same way. 

From what I've seen its Atheists that work harder to disprove Christianity, not the other way around. But whatever, I'm not getting involved in a religious flame war. 



lets say im confused.



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Joelcool7 said:
bannedagain said:
Chairman-Mao said:

This thread lasted 6 posts before someone had to go on a religious rant instead of just a yes or no. 



Look at the way they got disgusted because someone wasn't a christain. Christain hand it to us non believers daily.

So I gave a little back and it wasn't a rant it was my thoughts and a little science and logic.

It's a blog!

Umm unless a post got deleted I believe Chairman-Mao was refering to your athiest rant which was six posts into this thread. Couldn't you have just said "I'm athiest rather then attacking the OP for being Christian?

At the OP I'm sorry to say but their are alot of closed minded Athiests on this site. The closed minded Athiests just will not accept that you have a different belief then they do. Don't get me wrong their are a few open minded educated Athiests on VGChartz as well. But you commited Thread suicide when you indicated you were Christian.

I won't get into the debate of whether my faith is scientifically proven or theirs is because it will lead no where when people have decided what they believe. Its impossible to reason with anyone who blindly believes their belief is the only right one.



I have plenty of supporting facts and all point to 99.9 percent right. 

Santa Clause is real too, RIght, stories are great but it doesn't make them true because you had a spiritual experience. 

Maybe people on this site are sick of the way religions treat them? seems to me that I get it shoved in my face watching the f'ing science channel and almost in every event planned by family, some friends, wedding, soliciting my door,  The mall, Politicians,shoting down stem cell research, c'mon, it goes on and on. We just sit there and take it with a smile and don't get bent out of shape about it.  But once we bring up are beliefs after hearing hours of religion talk, it's we are a--holes and what have you. So it's always shame on us for a different belief system. It's called being demonized for having different beliefs.

Religous groups have always done it.

Maybe you are just sensitive and you need to just accept that it's just providing facts. Not bashing you.



AND I'M DONE! OH YEA>

LET  THE FONZ BE WITH YOU!

AHHHHHHH!



bannedagain said:

Evolution has so many supporting facts that believeing in a book or a  founded religion is close to being in the dark.

I can't say what there is but I for one don't believe in any set religion. I think there could be a god but I'm sure no one really has a clue of what that is. 

M-thoery seems to state that the universe has and always willl be, bumping into other universes membrane;s and creating matter every time that happens( the BIG BANG).

So I will stick with the intellegent nonbiased scientist, rather then a religion who has burned people at the stake or bombed a building. Don't say that this is not what it's about and to some point not but the is a lot of talk of vengence in the bible against people of non-belief or of another god. It contradicts itself. They have recently just cleaned up there actions and some have not.

I bet bruno would be laughing in he's grave at all that he was right about.

I do agree that religion has stopped some people from being nut bags but your always going to have them. The point is that everyone should live up to moral beliefs. Society expects that from you and you should too. I just don't agree with the way they do it. Believe or go to hell, Making people fearful is great and all but we as people can move past cave man days and be civilised as people.  a lot of people's actions pertain to the frontal lube and experience anyway and we are on the verge of pushing science to new levels to maybe help people grow or replace parts of there frontal lube to help them make better decision making.

 

SO YOU SHOULD NOT JUDGE ANYONE'S MORAL BELIEFS BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN A SET RELIGION. THATS BIASED AND PREGITEST.  She could have better mannerism then you ever thought of and yet you think it's unbelieveable that she thinks different and goes by the smartest people in the world beliefs and life achievements in science.

Charles Darwin: look him up some time.

or look at virus's and germs. They mutate and evolve on a faster scale because they  have way shorter lifespans and evolveing for the greater good takes new generations of time to change.

P.S people are not evil because they are not religous and actually a lot of them are way more moral then church going people that think it's ok cause jesus will forgive me!

Hope I didn't affend you but to be shocked that someone doesn't follow in a traditional way you think they should, Just makes you the judgemental person. I go to weddings and all sorts of places that I got to hear what I think is a joke but I don't judge everyone around me as a nut bag because the have a different belief then me. I also don't push it on people and advertise or talk down to. So maybe some of you should look in the mirror.

Do a little research on your hero Christopher Columbus, the guy was a staunch christian. He thought evolution was a means to prove god really did created everything, check your facts.

Edit: why the hell do people mostly stuff up their posts when they are posting something that makes a mention of this.

GOD DAMN IT!!



 

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AussieGecko said:
bannedagain said:

Evolution has so many supporting facts that believeing in a book or a  founded religion is close to being in the dark.

I can't say what there is but I for one don't believe in any set religion. I think there could be a god but I'm sure no one really has a clue of what that is. 

M-thoery seems to state that the universe has and always willl be, bumping into other universes membrane;s and creating matter every time that happens( the BIG BANG).

So I will stick with the intellegent nonbiased scientist, rather then a religion who has burned people at the stake or bombed a building. Don't say that this is not what it's about and to some point not but the is a lot of talk of vengence in the bible against people of non-belief or of another god. It contradicts itself. They have recently just cleaned up there actions and some have not.

I bet bruno would be laughing in he's grave at all that he was right about.

I do agree that religion has stopped some people from being nut bags but your always going to have them. The point is that everyone should live up to moral beliefs. Society expects that from you and you should too. I just don't agree with the way they do it. Believe or go to hell, Making people fearful is great and all but we as people can move past cave man days and be civilised as people.  a lot of people's actions pertain to the frontal lube and experience anyway and we are on the verge of pushing science to new levels to maybe help people grow or replace parts of there frontal lube to help them make better decision making.

 

SO YOU SHOULD NOT JUDGE ANYONE'S MORAL BELIEFS BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN A SET RELIGION. THATS BIASED AND PREGITEST.  She could have better mannerism then you ever thought of and yet you think it's unbelieveable that she thinks different and goes by the smartest people in the world beliefs and life achievements in science.

Charles Darwin: look him up some time.

or look at virus's and germs. They mutate and evolve on a faster scale because they  have way shorter lifespans and evolveing for the greater good takes new generations of time to change.

P.S people are not evil because they are not religous and actually a lot of them are way more moral then church going people that think it's ok cause jesus will forgive me!

Hope I didn't affend you but to be shocked that someone doesn't follow in a traditional way you think they should, Just makes you the judgemental person. I go to weddings and all sorts of places that I got to hear what I think is a joke but I don't judge everyone around me as a nut bag because the have a different belief then me. I also don't push it on people and advertise or talk down to. So maybe some of you should look in the mirror.

Do a little research on your hero Christopher Columbus, the guy was a staunch christian. He thought evolution was a means to prove god really did created everything, check your facts.

Christopher Columbus has nothing to do with this, he found land, that was it. What are you talking about?

I said Charles Darwin, you know the guy that came up with the idea of evolution and survival of the fittest.





bannedagain said:
AussieGecko said:

Do a little research on your hero Christopher Columbus, the guy was a staunch christian. He thought evolution was a means to prove god really did created everything, check your facts.

Christopher Columbus has nothing to do with this, he found land, that was it. What are you talking about?

I said Charles Darwin, you know the guy that came up with the idea of evolution and survival of the fittest.




Also I thought Christopher Columbus discovered the Americas some 350 years before Darwin published on the origin of species? He couldn't have thought that evolution proved God's existence as there was no concept of evolution back then.