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Khuutra on 08 December 2010
Scoobes said:
Khuutra said:

That development perspective didn't contribute to significantly higher sales for ME2, though.

I think we can take this as being in the context of EA games, because for some developers (like the elephant) this isn't going to be true this gen or the next one, if ever.

No, but I'm sure they made a tidy profit on the DLC. If devs can continue to support games with DLC, then money will keep coming in (unless they release it for free).

Undoubtedly true, but that isn't a value that all developers or publishers hold as being good.



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Rainbird on 08 December 2010
Khuutra said:
Rainbird said:

You're not reading what he said, he's saying that the games that are created, put out the door and never touched again by the developer are done.

Mass Effect 2 is connected online, it got plenty of DLC and support. It's not connected as in having multiplayer, it's connected as in something the developers continue to support and add to, whether that's in singleplayer or multiplayer.

That development perspective didn't contribute to significantly higher sales for ME2, though.

I think we can take this as being in the context of EA games, because for some developers (like the elephant) this isn't going to be true this gen or the next one, if ever.

I don't think he necessarily thinks it will contribute to higher sales, I think it's more a case of wanting to keep up with the competition. If the competition provides good service and connectivity with their games, then the industry over all will move towards that, and not providing it will seen as subpar.

I don't know if it's going to be like that, but I could see it happening.



Khuutra on 08 December 2010
Rainbird said:
Khuutra said:

That development perspective didn't contribute to significantly higher sales for ME2, though.

I think we can take this as being in the context of EA games, because for some developers (like the elephant) this isn't going to be true this gen or the next one, if ever.

I don't think he necessarily thinks it will contribute to higher sales, I think it's more a case of wanting to keep up with the competition. If the competition provides good service and connectivity with their games, then the industry over all will move towards that, and not providing it will seen as subpar.

I don't know if it's going to be like that, but I could see it happening.

His perspective on it is too limited; most of the biggest games this gen have nothing of the sort.



silicon on 08 December 2010
Khuutra said:
Rainbird said:
Khuutra said:

That development perspective didn't contribute to significantly higher sales for ME2, though.

I think we can take this as being in the context of EA games, because for some developers (like the elephant) this isn't going to be true this gen or the next one, if ever.

I don't think he necessarily thinks it will contribute to higher sales, I think it's more a case of wanting to keep up with the competition. If the competition provides good service and connectivity with their games, then the industry over all will move towards that, and not providing it will seen as subpar.

I don't know if it's going to be like that, but I could see it happening.

His perspective on it is too limited; most of the biggest games this gen have nothing of the sort.


Halo, CoD, WoW, Farmville

All huge games.



Khuutra on 08 December 2010
silicon said:
Khuutra said:

His perspective on it is too limited; most of the biggest games this gen have nothing of the sort.

Halo, CoD, WoW, Farmville

All huge games.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111169&page=1

"Most" is the operative word here.



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Rainbird on 08 December 2010
Khuutra said:
silicon said:
Khuutra said:

His perspective on it is too limited; most of the biggest games this gen have nothing of the sort.

Halo, CoD, WoW, Farmville

All huge games.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111169&page=1

"Most" is the operative word here.

Actually, without being an expert on these games, but I some quick checks, and I counted a total of 27 "connected" games on that list. A majority in other words.



Khuutra on 08 December 2010
Rainbird said:
Khuutra said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111169&page=1

"Most" is the operative word here.

Actually, without being an expert on these games, but I some quick checks, and I counted a total of 27 "connected" games on that list. A majority in other words.

Not a bad point!

Now look at all the games that sold over 15 million.



MaxwellGT2000 on 08 December 2010
RolStoppable said:

A company who consistently failed to generate profits over the course of the last few years isn't exactly the best one to ask on the future of video games.


And Rol puts everything into perspective haha 

Either way, I think that's some crap, some of the best games of the gen sales wise and reception wise are just not online multiplayer/DLC filled, they don't get patches or more content after release.  Some companies truly put out games you can play over and over, are not buggy, have a solid single player, and have all the content you could hope for at release.

He's talking about a way to get big sales out the door but not consistent sales over time, the ladder used to be the goal last gen, the former is the goal it seems this gen, I personally see the future as a way to achieve both.



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silicon on 08 December 2010
Khuutra said:
Rainbird said:
Khuutra said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111169&page=1

"Most" is the operative word here.

Actually, without being an expert on these games, but I some quick checks, and I counted a total of 27 "connected" games on that list. A majority in other words.

Not a bad point!

Now look at all the games that sold over 15 million.


Well most of them have some sort of social component to them.

Also, keep in mind EA needs to make an effective use of their resources. They don't want to downsize and pay for Mario/Wii liscences.If you're Nintendo you can leverage the strength of your gaming icons.

EA on the other hand has to focus their efforts on increasing the sales of the average game they release. By average I don't mean quality, but if they release 10 games, the number they sell in total has to be higher per game they release.



Khuutra on 08 December 2010
RolStoppable said:
Khuutra said:

Not a bad point!

Now look at all the games that sold over 15 million.

That's cherry-picking.

"Best-selling" means just that. 5 million sales are merely good sales this gen.