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Beuli2 on 06 December 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Beuli2 said:

Why are people seaying 700K is too high?  And why are you saying it will drop 150K this week CGI? I don't understand this at all. The prediction and everything else. Guess I'm getting old.

Sales won't go up post Black Friday. The next time we will see an increase is the weeks/days before Christmas. Until then, things will drop a bit.

Last's years numbers proove that you that this doens't seem to be true.



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Immortal on 06 December 2010
CGI-Quality said:
mhsillen said:
CGI-Quality said:
Beuli2 said:

Why are people seaying 700K is too high?  And why are you saying it will drop 150K this week CGI? I don't understand this at all. The prediction and everything else. Guess I'm getting old.

Sales won't go up post Black Friday. The next time we will see an increase is the weeks/days before Christmas. Until then, things will drop a bit.

The trend for wii is rising sales post BF not less

Look at last years sales

Maybe, but last year so the NSMBWii/price cut affect. I don't think it will increase by much, if it increases at all.

I could end up wrong, but I don't believe so.

You do realize how little sense that makes, :P? Both those things happened before BF. And BF was up YOY anyway.



 

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Immortal on 06 December 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Immortal said:
CGI-Quality said:
mhsillen said:
CGI-Quality said:
Beuli2 said:

Why are people seaying 700K is too high?  And why are you saying it will drop 150K this week CGI? I don't understand this at all. The prediction and everything else. Guess I'm getting old.

Sales won't go up post Black Friday. The next time we will see an increase is the weeks/days before Christmas. Until then, things will drop a bit.

The trend for wii is rising sales post BF not less

Look at last years sales

Maybe, but last year so the NSMBWii/price cut affect. I don't think it will increase by much, if it increases at all.

I could end up wrong, but I don't believe so.

You do realize how little sense that makes, :P? Both those things happened before BF. And BF was up anyway.

That still helped ON Black Friday though. Kinect happened before Black Friday, right? How much did it help the 360? Those things obviously made a big difference for Wii, as while it's still ahead of the other two consoles, it is down by a big margin YoY.

Anyway, read my last post to Beuli2. I may have misjudged it, but what I post to you remains.

Wait, so you're saying that the price cut and NSMBW were released before Black Friday, but still helped on it? I'm probably getting confused here, :P. Anyway, Wii's practically even this week for YOY and, if you're talking about YTD, I fail to see what difference that makes when Wii has recently been trending upwards.



 

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Immortal on 06 December 2010
CGI-Quality said:

Wii is treading upwards, due to time period (which doesn't mean up YoY either, but up from previous levels in the year), but what makes you so naive to the fact that NSMBWii and the price cut had lasting impacts through Black Friday 2009? It goes back to the 360S/Kinect effect. You think that had no impact on 360 BF sales this year?

Edit: My apologies on the YoY comment. For BF, the Wii is up in NA. But what I said about NSMBWii/price cut remains. That definitely helped the system last year.


They did, but since Wii is ahead for the week and still has stuff left, I wouldn't doubt its potential.

Anyway, this is pretty subjective for the moment and neither one of us will be convinced otherwise so let's just wait for the numbers. I believe that the Wii will be pretty much even for the rest of the year overall, but you could be right, too, I guess.



 

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Seece on 06 December 2010

PS3 will go down more than 360 this week, anyone saying otherwise is just wishful thinkng. It'll drop 30k in Japan, harder in NA (thanks to the GT5 boost it got there, grew this most the week) and stay on par or grow smaller than 360 will in EMEAA.

PS3

Japan - 40k
NA - 250k
EMEAA - 350k

WW - 640k

360

Japan - 5k
NA - 450k
EMEAA - 270k

WW - 720k



 

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mhsillen on 06 December 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Immortal said:
CGI-Quality said:
Immortal said:
CGI-Quality said:
mhsillen said:
CGI-Quality said:
Beuli2 said:

Why are people seaying 700K is too high?  And why are you saying it will drop 150K this week CGI? I don't understand this at all. The prediction and everything else. Guess I'm getting old.

Sales won't go up post Black Friday. The next time we will see an increase is the weeks/days before Christmas. Until then, things will drop a bit.

The trend for wii is rising sales post BF not less

Look at last years sales

Maybe, but last year so the NSMBWii/price cut affect. I don't think it will increase by much, if it increases at all.

I could end up wrong, but I don't believe so.

You do realize how little sense that makes, :P? Both those things happened before BF. And BF was up anyway.

That still helped ON Black Friday though. Kinect happened before Black Friday, right? How much did it help the 360? Those things obviously made a big difference for Wii, as while it's still ahead of the other two consoles, it is down by a big margin YoY.

Anyway, read my last post to Beuli2. I may have misjudged it, but what I post to you remains.

Wait, so you're saying that the price cut and NSMBW were released before Black Friday, but still helped on it? I'm probably getting confused here, :P. Anyway, Wii's practically even this week for YOY and, if you're talking about YTD, I fail to see what difference that makes when Wii has recently been trending upwards.

Wii is treading upwards, due to time period (which doesn't mean up YoY either, but up from previous levels in the year), but what makes you so naive to the fact that NSMBWii and the price cut had lasting impacts through Black Friday 2009? It goes back to the 360S/Kinect effect. You think that had no impact on 360 BF sales this year?

Edit: My apologies on the YoY comment. For BF, the Wii is up in NA. But what I said about NSMBWii/price cut remains. That definitely helped the system last year.

If NSMBWii and price cut fueled last years sales records as you believe

Why then why are sales almost identical this year. I think around 800k in the americas

I see where you are coming from this is why this time of year is so awesome



Seece on 06 December 2010
CGI-Quality said:

My revision:

NA - Wii: 700,000 Xbox 360: 370,000 PS3: 230,000

 

Ugh .. did you see the boosts each console got this week (PS3 got highest in NA) and the weeks sales beforehand?

Hard to think PS3 is only gonna drop 170k yet 360 will drop 230k.



 

Buzzi on 06 December 2010

There's the Wii Fit bundle in EMEEA this week if I'm right, this'll push Wii even higer. I think Wii will be down YoY in the Americas and obviously in Japan...still this could be another million week for Wii. Almost impossible to go under 900k though.



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mhsillen on 06 December 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Immortal said:
CGI-Quality said:

Wii is treading upwards, due to time period (which doesn't mean up YoY either, but up from previous levels in the year), but what makes you so naive to the fact that NSMBWii and the price cut had lasting impacts through Black Friday 2009? It goes back to the 360S/Kinect effect. You think that had no impact on 360 BF sales this year?

Edit: My apologies on the YoY comment. For BF, the Wii is up in NA. But what I said about NSMBWii/price cut remains. That definitely helped the system last year.


They did, but since Wii is ahead for the week and still has stuff left, I wouldn't doubt its potential.

Anyway, this is pretty subjective for the moment and neither one of us will be convinced otherwise so let's just wait for the numbers. I believe that the Wii will be pretty much even for the year overall, but you could be right, too, I guess.

Check my latest post. I didn't fully do research before, I admit, but now have a better idea and think my revision is closer to what will happen.


Sorry I didn't read your post first 



KillerMan on 06 December 2010
Seece said:

PS3 will go down more than 360 this week, anyone saying otherwise is just wishful thinkng. It'll drop 30k in Japan, harder in NA (thanks to the GT5 boost it got there, grew this most this week) and stay on par or grow smaller than 360 will in EMEAA.


Actually unit wise probably no. As X360 had a lot higher BF sales in NA it will go down more unit wise than PS3. Just look at last year sales week after BF week in NA. Also in Japan there is new Tales game and starting holiday lift so PS3 will probably see only small drop if it drops at all (Holiday lift starts later in japan because there new year is more important day than christmas eve). EMEAA numbers are hardest to predict. Depends how many units GT5 moved and does it have still effect this week.