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The Guardian has an interactive map where you can easily find news (let's say better than the cablegate site)..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-wikileaks



 

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Only a few hundred documents were released so far. In some way that's dissapointing, but on the other hand it will give people and the media time to digest each important piece of news.

Perhaps it will also keep all kinds of scumbags on their toes, waiting to see if their dirt will get picked up on or not. That can't be a bad thing...



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RageBot said:

Lol, now every country in the world will bash the USA for things their diplomats are either:

a. already doing.

b. wish they could do.


I really think it will not "bash" the US only.

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09STATE96222.html

2. (S/NF) We have information the French firm Sofradir and
its subsidiary Ulis continue to sell cooled and uncooled
infrared detectors to a Chinese firm for incorporation into
thermal imaging systems.  We believe the Chinese firm,
Zhejiang Dali Technology Company Ltd, is actively selling its
thermal imaging systems to Iranian defense entities.  Iranian
military access to Chinese thermal imaging systems that rely
on high-grade French infrared detectors could increase the
threat to US and allied forces operating in the Gulf region.
We want to request the Government of France to act
immediately to terminate this activity by Sofradir and Ulis
so China cannot use French components to manufacture weapons
systems and sell them to Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism.

or

1. (S/NF) SUMMARY:  Secretary of Defense Robert Gates (SecDef) was
hosted by French Minister of Defense Herve Morin for a working lunch
during an official bilateral visit to Paris on February 8, 2010.
SecDef and Morin agreed on the basic themes to be included in NATO's
revised Strategic Concept.  On Missile Defense, SecDef refuted Morin's
contention that a European Missile Defense system is both unwise and
unnecessary but pledged to give France and other Allies better
information on the costs and command and control structure of the U.S.
proposal.  Both Morin and Gates agreed that Iran's rejection of an
engagement track meant that the time for pressure had arrived, but both
noted concern over China's opposition to a new UN Security Council
Resolution (UNSCR).  On Afghanistan, SecDef praised French
contributions and highlighted ongoing trainer shortfalls.  SecDef
raised U.S. concerns over the sale of a Mistral-class helicopter
carrier to Russia as sending a mixed signal to both Russia and our
Central and East European Allies.  Morin refuted this idea, arguing
that the sale was a way to send a message of partnership to Russia at a
critical time.  Morin requested that the upcoming U.S. Air Force
Request for Proposal (RFP) for a new in-flight refueling tanker
aircraft be unbiased.  SecDef told Morin that he had full confidence
that the RFP would be as fair as possible.   END SUMMARY.


it will affect all the occidental countries. All of them. Or at least the ones that like to show their ass on the international place



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This one is hilarious considering the context we're in:

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2010/01/10BERLIN128.html

OVERCOMING GERMAN DOUBTS ON U.S.
DATA PRIVACY PRACTICES

"
However, in these meetings, our German counterparts
consistently raise concerns about U.S. data protection
measures and policy."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/225319

some interesting comment about east country, turkey, Iran.
I love the one about Venezuela
"Levitte observed that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is "crazy" and said that even Brazil wasn't able to support him anymore. Unfortunately, Chavez is taking one of the richest countries in Latin America and turning it into another Zimbabwe."



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FreeTalkLive said:

The US government has been violating US laws for decades.  It has been abusing nations around for world for just as long.  Since the US government refuses to follow US or international law and these actions are totally non-violent, maybe they will be good if they help keep the US government in check since almost nothing else seems to work.  Maybe the entire world will be better off because of this.


I completely agree. This government needs to wake up and smell the roses that what they have been doing is against the law, and we citizens will not stand for it. Of course since we citizens have basically zero power to control government anymore, the UN can.

And I also support the release of these documents because our bill of rights grants the right of freedom of the press.



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ssj12 said:
FreeTalkLive said:

The US government has been violating US laws for decades.  It has been abusing nations around for world for just as long.  Since the US government refuses to follow US or international law and these actions are totally non-violent, maybe they will be good if they help keep the US government in check since almost nothing else seems to work.  Maybe the entire world will be better off because of this.

. Of course since we citizens have basically zero power to control government anymore, the UN can.


Are you serious?

What can the UN do to the united states, if it can't even do anything to... anyone?



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RageBot said:
ssj12 said:
FreeTalkLive said:

The US government has been violating US laws for decades.  It has been abusing nations around for world for just as long.  Since the US government refuses to follow US or international law and these actions are totally non-violent, maybe they will be good if they help keep the US government in check since almost nothing else seems to work.  Maybe the entire world will be better off because of this.

. Of course since we citizens have basically zero power to control government anymore, the UN can.


Are you serious?

What can the UN do to the united states, if it can't even do anything to... anyone?

lol @UN, they let usa invade irak under faked evidence, what make you think theyll do anything this time?, i have not faith on UN anymore



RageBot said:
ssj12 said:
FreeTalkLive said:

The US government has been violating US laws for decades.  It has been abusing nations around for world for just as long.  Since the US government refuses to follow US or international law and these actions are totally non-violent, maybe they will be good if they help keep the US government in check since almost nothing else seems to work.  Maybe the entire world will be better off because of this.

. Of course since we citizens have basically zero power to control government anymore, the UN can.


Are you serious?

What can the UN do to the united states, if it can't even do anything to... anyone?

1

UN = USA best friend



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I think it's fairly obvious at this point Wikileaks is secretly being funded by The Commnunist Party of China or a similar organization to undermine the United States and the United Nations.



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