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Yep, the government wants everyone to think they have teeth over this issue. In reality they can't do much about it. Apart from maybe get him arrested on molestation charges. The cynic in me finds the timing of those allegations very convenient.



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Soleron said:


No power would risk economic instability by an armed invasion of another, just like with nukes now. Violence in less developed countries would continue the same. Terrorism would continue the same; intelligence didn't help much to mitigate it and the amount of resources spent combating it produced a tiny effect compared to spending that money on road safety or stopping smoking.

Each country would keep a small militia (National Guard like) for civil issues and natural disasters, but they wouldn't operate abroad.

And we'd save a ton of money. All the defence companies could go too.

The major difference would be that we'd probably lose the Falkland Islands to Argentina, and Afghanistan would go back to being lawless. I think it's worth it.

 

That's exactly why the army in countries that have sych a thing will never be shut down. Defence companies have too great financial interest to allow this to happen and they obviusly have great influence in the Governments. This is also a reason why there are so many pointless conflicts: to justify military spending.

Not to mention that people working in the army probably have no interest in the army being shut down, as that would mena they'd be out of a job.



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Rath said:

Yep, the government wants everyone to think they have teeth over this issue. In reality they can't do much about it. Apart from maybe get him arrested on molestation charges. The cynic in me finds the timing of those allegations very convenient.



Yep convenient indeed. I also read on the BBC news website that the Swedish lawyer trying to get him arrested is also a politician of some sort.



Its a shame that the government views transparency as bad.



Pretty cool how several governments are so pissed off :)

Congratulations to Julian for facing 'the system'.



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Rath said:

Yep, the government wants everyone to think they have teeth over this issue. In reality they can't do much about it. Apart from maybe get him arrested on molestation charges. The cynic in me finds the timing of those allegations very convenient.


You know that the charges are preexisting right?  They just decided to persue him for questioning again recently.



Kasz216 said:
Rath said:

Yep, the government wants everyone to think they have teeth over this issue. In reality they can't do much about it. Apart from maybe get him arrested on molestation charges. The cynic in me finds the timing of those allegations very convenient.


You know that the charges are preexisting right?  They just decided to persue him for questioning again recently.

The charges are pre-existing from when he released the Afghan/Iraq war documents.



kowenicki said:

And if anyone thinks these leaks are better for democracy or freedom then they are naive in the extreme. 

The exact opposite is true.


Explain how these leaks will harm democracy and freedom.



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kowenicki said:
NJ5 said:
kowenicki said:

And if anyone thinks these leaks are better for democracy or freedom then they are naive in the extreme. 

The exact opposite is true.


Explain how these leaks will harm democracy and freedom.


You can bet there will be less sharing of information between nation states and more and more layers of secrecy will be put in place to prevent leaks.

This guy is a dick.


Point 1) how will that hurt democracy and freedom? I consider it a good thing if countries share less information. For example, I definitely don't want European governments sharing personal banking data with the US, as was being proposed a while ago. (for "counter-terrorism" purposes. the US is going crazy with counter-terrorism, see the ongoing TSA crap)

Point 2) So you're saying that either there are no leaks or if there are (as is now happening), there won't be any more leaks due to layers of secrecy? So in what way do these leaks harm anything if the consequence is exactly the same?



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MrBubbles said:
benao87 said:
MrBubbles said:
benao87 said:

Interpol issues 'red notice' for Wikileaks' Assange

Lol, they reaised the maximun alert, for a sex offence...... -.-


maximum alert?  its a "contact police if you've seen this molesterer" deal.

My bad, I must have read that on another part. All wanted people have a red notice.

Still, that is contacting 188 countries,  seeking for an arrest or a provisional arrest. For sex crimes? Seriously?

 

he regularly travels internationally, his current whereabouts are uncertain, and he was even offered refuge in a third world country(although the offer has since been rescinded).  seems like the logical course to me.

The logical course if he was some kind of terrorist, serial killer, etc.

The guy has not been formally charged with any crime in Sweden.

Then again, I'm not sure if you are serious.