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haxxiy said:

Well that's what I've been saying the whole time isn't it? Back two years or so estimates already put total PS2 numbers here close to 8m. Total PS3 numbers (counting imported ones, that is) should be close to 1.5m by now and both X360 and Wii around 500k...

Oh, and probably X360 is ahead of Wii. There never has been much love for Nintendo here... SNES was outsold by the Genesis, what on Earth is a N64 or a GC, and Wii was negatively received. Nintendo consoles and handhelds for that matter have always been stuff of skinny japanese descendant kids, or at least that's the feeling you get.

It's not that bad for Nintendo but it's mostly true. SNES is well known and N64 most had some contact with. GC is really just a myth though. But since the PS and it's massive advantage Sony got a nice place in the average players heads. Still, I'd say both Xbox 360 and Wii are higher than that, but I sure don't have numbers to back me up.

Anyways the numbers doesn't tell the whole picture if you consider Sony should be profiting some $400 in each PS3 sold here (a PS3 costs about $1200 now). Heck even the PS2 is still close to $300. The most insane prices ever were by the Wii launch ($1100 for a Wii, but quickly dropped to $700 or so).

It's not like Sony sells them for more here then in the USA. The extra price doesn't go to them, it gets diluted in the way, a big chunck with the government.

By the way, sales outside of NA and Europe are GOW3's best bet to reach 5m if there isn't any piracy. Pirated GOW and GOW2 had insane attach rates, and at least some of it should convert to 'real' GOW3 sales in the long term. 

The way taxes work here is also retarded. The store has to pay a tax over each sale. but they pay this tax over the total sale price, which... includes this tax!

What I mean is, if you pay 100 bucks for something and wants 20% in profit, you can't just sell it for 120 bucks plus (say) 20% for the taxes, because you'll be taxed those 20% over that. No, you have to charge 150 bucks just to get those 20 bucks for yourself. So the government is actually pocketing 50% more than the retail in this scenario. I don't have the exact numbers, but it's not that far from it, and if it happens at a few levels, shit.



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Shonen said:
Kasz216 said:
MrT-Tar said:

DS is really low in Brazil


Does anyone outside of Sony even have an offical distributor in Brazil?

I know most people in Brazil tend to just buy videogame stuff in the US or other countries and bring it back due to the prices.

Dude DS is not low in brazil try to go to a anime convention here and u will loss the count of dss after the first minute, really im with 2 borrowed DSs at home, in fact i could name 50 friends with a DS.

I meant from an "offical" numbers point of view due to the expensive prices.



Kasz216 said:
Shonen said:
Kasz216 said:
MrT-Tar said:

DS is really low in Brazil


Does anyone outside of Sony even have an offical distributor in Brazil?

I know most people in Brazil tend to just buy videogame stuff in the US or other countries and bring it back due to the prices.

Dude DS is not low in brazil try to go to a anime convention here and u will loss the count of dss after the first minute, really im with 2 borrowed DSs at home, in fact i could name 50 friends with a DS.

I meant from an "offical" numbers point of view due to the expensive prices.

Oh , so its true. 

My bad.



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Too bad we will never know what the actual GAP right now between 360/ps3 because of these hard to track places, specially in EMEAA.



Shonen said:

FAKE! haha if u just consider the official brazillian product this could be right, but if we consider the total amount of units in brazil PS3 is way behind from the Wii (i know i live here) i gonna explain why the official PS3 sells well here.

A imported Wii goes on sale on a video game store for R$600,00

A official Wii goes on sale for R$999,99

A imported PS3 goes on sale for R$1,299

And the official PS3 pack that is sold at super markets goes on sale for R$1,163

Did u guys notice the why the official PS3 get better sales than the official Wii ?

I agree with lasts sentences.

But PS3 and 360 user base here is bigger than Wii.

I asked some shops in Santa Efigênia which console sold more and receive two answers:

1) Before: 360 > Wii > PS3
2) Today (after price cut/games): PS3 > 360 > Wii

I know a lot of people with 360 and PS3... Wii just a ten.



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ethomaz said:
Shonen said:

FAKE! haha if u just consider the official brazillian product this could be right, but if we consider the total amount of units in brazil PS3 is way behind from the Wii (i know i live here) i gonna explain why the official PS3 sells well here.

A imported Wii goes on sale on a video game store for R$600,00

A official Wii goes on sale for R$999,99

A imported PS3 goes on sale for R$1,299

And the official PS3 pack that is sold at super markets goes on sale for R$1,163

Did u guys notice the why the official PS3 get better sales than the official Wii ?

I agree with lasts sentences.

But PS3 and 360 user base here is bigger than Wii.

I asked some shops in Santa Efigênia which console sold more and receive two answers:

1) Before: 360 > Wii > PS3
2) Today (after price cut/games): PS3 > 360 > Wii

I know a lot of people with 360 and PS3... Wii just a ten.

True, and to make matters worse Nintendo is the only one who advertises here, I've never seen ads for any Microsoft or Sony games



 

 

Where I live (Ponta Grossa - PR), seems that Wii has advantege, with Xbox 360 in second and PS3 in  in third. But I think the PS3, with the jailbreak will Overcome the Xbox 360 soon, if not already.

 

I think Wii sells more because a lot of children and girls has it, is a family video game (including adults that are not gamers). PS3 and Xbox 360 video game are the prefered between the teenagers.

The poorest Brazilians only play GTA and football, and no doubt they do not have money to buy original games on the PS3 (plus lack money, piracy is too ingrained in Brazilian culture, if a game cost about the price of a fake still choose the fake), so the console of choice is the Xbox 360. In Brazil, although the issue price of the console weighs more, and now the Wii is much cheaper than other stores, in fact, here (Ponta Grossa) Xbox 360 is rare in shops, is only found in illegal trade ( aka "camelo").

Without total numbers, we will be discussing what sells more, which sells less, with small samples and biased opinions, influenced by the opinions of others.

But honestly, I do not think the PS3 is in first position in Brazil in global numbers.

 

 

Saudações brasileiras.



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Confirmed.

GT5 coming to Brazil. Dec 7th. Cover and manual in PT-Br.

R$ 199,00 (US$ 115.00)

http://blogs.forumpcs.com.br/noticias/2010/11/25/gran-turismo-5-chegara-ao-solo-brasileiro-no-dia-07-de-dezembro/

If menu in PT-Br too I will get this version.



rrrnearrr said:
ethomaz said:
Shonen said:

FAKE! haha if u just consider the official brazillian product this could be right, but if we consider the total amount of units in brazil PS3 is way behind from the Wii (i know i live here) i gonna explain why the official PS3 sells well here.

A imported Wii goes on sale on a video game store for R$600,00

A official Wii goes on sale for R$999,99

A imported PS3 goes on sale for R$1,299

And the official PS3 pack that is sold at super markets goes on sale for R$1,163

Did u guys notice the why the official PS3 get better sales than the official Wii ?

I agree with lasts sentences.

But PS3 and 360 user base here is bigger than Wii.

I asked some shops in Santa Efigênia which console sold more and receive two answers:

1) Before: 360 > Wii > PS3
2) Today (after price cut/games): PS3 > 360 > Wii

I know a lot of people with 360 and PS3... Wii just a ten.

True, and to make matters worse Nintendo is the only one who advertises here, I've never seen ads for any Microsoft or Sony games


Yeah trues, i think nintendo is well aware of their situation, in brazil i dont think they care if the wiis that are in brazil are those that suposses to be sold in brazil or they are just being imported from the US.



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