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lestatdark said:
Galaki said:

All the EV, IV, DV and WTFV are way too complicated.

It's only complicated when you learn about it the first time. The only true hard thing to control are IV's, other than that, it's pretty manageable.

Even then, with good breeding, you can get very good IV's rather fast.

IV's i've never bothered with precisely because i don't think i've ever made a Pokemon egg once since they were introduced, though i've been IV-screwed a few times from Pokemon of a strong species that could never quite keep up



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Mr Khan said:
lestatdark said:
Galaki said:

All the EV, IV, DV and WTFV are way too complicated.

It's only complicated when you learn about it the first time. The only true hard thing to control are IV's, other than that, it's pretty manageable.

Even then, with good breeding, you can get very good IV's rather fast.

IV's i've never bothered with precisely because i don't think i've ever made a Pokemon egg once since they were introduced, though i've been IV-screwed a few times from Pokemon of a strong species that could never quite keep up

I've only bothered with them starting from Platinum, as before that I couldn't give a damn as well. Egg moves, IV's, EV's have, since then, become a priority in structuring my team, and given the improvements given to the EV formula this gen, I've finally decided to make the most out of them.

That's why most of my Dragon team has maxed EV's in their best stats and IV's of 31, after careful selective breeding, and have Egg moves to maximize their moveset, like Hydreigon's Dark Pulse, Garchomp's Outrage, Arcanine's Flare Blitz/Trash/ExtremeSpeed combo, Kingdra's Outrage, etc.

It took me quite a lot of planning and selection to achieve it, so I acknowledge that a lot of people just skip that part of Pokemon.



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lestatdark said:
Mr Khan said:
lestatdark said:
Galaki said:

All the EV, IV, DV and WTFV are way too complicated.

It's only complicated when you learn about it the first time. The only true hard thing to control are IV's, other than that, it's pretty manageable.

Even then, with good breeding, you can get very good IV's rather fast.

IV's i've never bothered with precisely because i don't think i've ever made a Pokemon egg once since they were introduced, though i've been IV-screwed a few times from Pokemon of a strong species that could never quite keep up

I've only bothered with them starting from Platinum, as before that I couldn't give a damn as well. Egg moves, IV's, EV's have, since then, become a priority in structuring my team, and given the improvements given to the EV formula this gen, I've finally decided to make the most out of them.

That's why most of my Dragon team has maxed EV's in their best stats and IV's of 31, after careful selective breeding, and have Egg moves to maximize their moveset, like Hydreigon's Dark Pulse, Garchomp's Outrage, Arcanine's Flare Blitz/Trash/ExtremeSpeed combo, Kingdra's Outrage, etc.

It took me quite a lot of planning and selection to achieve it, so I acknowledge that a lot of people just skip that part of Pokemon.

It's the fact that you need to spend in-game time to get them to breed and hatch that gets me. Hell, even if you could hatch via Pokewalker, that would work out much better



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Mr Khan said:
lestatdark said:
Mr Khan said:
lestatdark said:
Galaki said:

All the EV, IV, DV and WTFV are way too complicated.

It's only complicated when you learn about it the first time. The only true hard thing to control are IV's, other than that, it's pretty manageable.

Even then, with good breeding, you can get very good IV's rather fast.

IV's i've never bothered with precisely because i don't think i've ever made a Pokemon egg once since they were introduced, though i've been IV-screwed a few times from Pokemon of a strong species that could never quite keep up

I've only bothered with them starting from Platinum, as before that I couldn't give a damn as well. Egg moves, IV's, EV's have, since then, become a priority in structuring my team, and given the improvements given to the EV formula this gen, I've finally decided to make the most out of them.

That's why most of my Dragon team has maxed EV's in their best stats and IV's of 31, after careful selective breeding, and have Egg moves to maximize their moveset, like Hydreigon's Dark Pulse, Garchomp's Outrage, Arcanine's Flare Blitz/Trash/ExtremeSpeed combo, Kingdra's Outrage, etc.

It took me quite a lot of planning and selection to achieve it, so I acknowledge that a lot of people just skip that part of Pokemon.

It's the fact that you need to spend in-game time to get them to breed and hatch that gets me. Hell, even if you could hatch via Pokewalker, that would work out much better

That's true. Even with all the kinks that you can work out to reduce the time needed to breed, hatch, level up and select pokemon, you'll still end up spending a lot of hours to do so. Heck, getting my Arcanine in it's current shape took me over 10 hours >_>. 

It's a shame they dropped the Pokewalker for Black/White, though with it's limited uses it wouldn't do much for this gen. If only they had a way to hasten the Dream World server launch.



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Trying to get a Careful Scraggy with Shed Skin...

Could be doing this for a while folks.



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Smeags said:

Trying to get a Careful Scraggy with Shed Skin...

Could be doing this for a while folks.

I remember doing something similar in Pearl with Starly and Shinx. Got there in the end.

Right now and trying to get either a Brave or Adamant Roggenrola, before moving on to Pidove and Blitzle. Consider how long this is taking might not bother about their natures seeing as Im eventually going to drop them from my squad. Considering being more adventurous with my squad and rotating at various intervals to get a bit more depth.



Smeags said:

Trying to get a Careful Scraggy with Shed Skin...

Could be doing this for a while folks.

I'll check what's the nature and ability of the scraggy that I caught when I get back home. But given the typing of Scraggy, wouldn't an Impish natured one be a better choice? The best fighting and flying attacks are physical attacks, and given that Scraggy has immunity against Psychic attacks, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone using a Special attack against a Scrafty.



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Why haven't I got Pokemon White yet?

Lestat was wondering what do think of Shiftry as a pokemon (Competitive sense). Since he is one of my favs.



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Kamal said:

Why haven't I got Pokemon White yet?

Lestat was wondering what do think of Shiftry as a pokemon (Competitive sense). Since he is one of my favs.

Well, Shiftry's are amongst one of the most weakness filled pokemon in the game. It has 5 2x weaknesses and one 4x weakness, and it's overall base stats (480), in my opinion, isn't that good as well, especially since it's a 3rd evolution pokemon. It has good Attack, Sp. Atk and Speed though, so with a bit of work you can get more out of him.

Considering that, a Jolly Chlorophyll Shiftry that's EV trained for Speed and Attack could have it's advantages. Paired up with Sunny Day, you'll get a massive boost to it's speed, allowing you to overcome (in speed) most of the pokemon that could potentially use any weakness related move, allowing you to go first to set Sunny Day. Giving it any of the type super effective damage reduction berry to help you resist that first attack could also help you set up Sunny day, though the sheer amount of weaknesses would have you guessing which type of berry to use.



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lestatdark said:

I'll check what's the nature and ability of the scraggy that I caught when I get back home. But given the typing of Scraggy, wouldn't an Impish natured one be a better choice? The best fighting and flying attacks are physical attacks, and given that Scraggy has immunity against Psychic attacks, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone using a Special attack against a Scrafty.

Just as I read this, I got an Impish Scraggy with IVs in Special Defense, so it's the best of both worlds.

I was more focused on Careful since I was going to run a Bulk Up Scraggy, but Impish will be just fine.

Now just reply how I'm going to catch a Modest Mewtwo and I'll be set.