It could do with reforming and scaling back. It's not broken.

Mr. Farage for President.

Great speech!

Suck you EUssr - nobody elected you. Nobody wants you!

but do we need it ?

nothing against good relation with UK or others countries .... but the way we have to follow this bastard european parlement rules all the time. The recent greek and iceland story are awefull ...

The EU Parliament is actually fine. But they have no power, it is the unelected EU Commission that imposes all the crazy rules. But I think the powers of the EU should be restricted to free trade rules mostly. Not dictate national policy or immigration rules.

Greece and Iceland did need bailed out, or the country would have collapsed. So someone had to put up the cash and organise the pool. That would happen with or without the EU.

And the EU has done a small number of good things on human rights, antitrust suits and environmental policy. Not enough to outweight the bad (e.g. CAP payments).

We certainly do need the free trade rules, uniform labour rules, and common currency in order to compete with the US as an economy. Businesses find it much less attractive to enter 30 disparate markets rather than one big one.

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If anything you'd want to cap unskilled labor, wouldn't you? Or would that effect the ability of various British businesses to exploit poor and desperate immigrants? (which isn't a problem confined to Britain, just to be clear)

Yeah, you'd think.  Though what I wonder is if the UK has any super dumb employment laws like the US.

For example farming being a below minimium wage job.

Waiters sure, pretty much everyone I know in the service industry more then made up for minimium wage.

It isn't the good jobs I'm worried about immigrants "stealing" it's the jobs people need to live.
What the hell are farmers supposed to make it up on?

Me i'd cap unskilled labor, and uncap skilled labor, at least in certain fields.

I mean, give me all your scientisets, best buisness men and Doctors world... why not?

Maybe because their are not enough skilled jobs at the moment?  Ireland as an example has enough skilled workers still they go not to Uk but even farther away (Rest of Eu, Na, Asia)..

Ah the same UKIP with their 'Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer' comment today? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40jhu39F3Ok

Don't understand his hate, if he wanted to complain then he should complain at Blair and Brown because van Rompuy would not have been President if Brown did not agree, and Merkel and Sarkozy and the rest of the leaders....  Leaders voted by the population of their country choose a president for a job with almost no power and that is rather symbolic...I would call it hardly undemocratic....

I don't know how they will do it anyway...Let the population choose so we have in the next ten years forever a Turkish Eu president? And if they did it last time an German President?  I can UKIP's reaction already 'Ein reich ein fuhrer, it took them long but they have now whole of Europe in their hands'...

I don't see how you can agree with someone who goes that low to attack someone's native country and looks..If I do that in this forum I get banned

The "Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" thing was a little extreme, I'll admit.

But you have to be extreme to get through to these people. Belgium isn't a very important country in the scheme of things, nobody's heard of Van Rompuy, he did a pretty shitty job with Belgium himself, but none of that matters as much as the fact that a man who is ruling over 731 million people and earning €300,000 a year is unelected, incompetent, and completely unheard of.

The power of Overlord Rompuy is only likely to grow in the future. The whole Lisbon Treaty ruckus showed that any country's government is willing to ignore democracy when their masters in the European Union tell them to do so.

I'm not going to be quite as extreme as Nigel Farage and say that we all need to leave the European Union. What we need to do is to seriously restructure it into an alliance and a force for positive change, rather than an enormous government of dictators.

There are as many skilled jobs as there are people willing to do a good job with them.

If an immigrant from the European Union wants to do a skilled job here, he can, but if he is from outside Europe, he can't? What is remotely logical or fair about that? Indeed, there should only really be a slight preference for British skilled workers. If someone else is willing to do a better job than you, then they have the right to be able to do that job.