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phenom08 said:

@ Squilliam

Include Wii third party games because the last time i checked the wii had the highest selling games and if you ask me call of duty should be doing alot better than what it is, Mario kart is pushing 23 million pretty good for a console filled with "soccer moms" that buy more games than 360 owners. The 360 and ps3 both lack a single 15 million seller so who's the one with lower expectations again. Why do people leave out nintendo games as if they aren't games, i guess because Halo and GT can't crack 15 million Mario shouldn't count.

Why do people leave out Nintendo games? Well I didn't. I said it was funny coming from a company which called Wii Music a failure to call this game a success.

Anyway you'll find the attach rate between say Halo or Call of Duty to be similar to that of Mario Kart which will again be similar to the attach rate on the Gamecube. Nothing much changed except the number of people to sell those games to.



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as long as Nintendo and the publishers say it's a success who are the fanboys to argue!!!!!!!!!!



Squilliam said:
phenom08 said:

@ Squilliam

Include Wii third party games because the last time i checked the wii had the highest selling games and if you ask me call of duty should be doing alot better than what it is, Mario kart is pushing 23 million pretty good for a console filled with "soccer moms" that buy more games than 360 owners. The 360 and ps3 both lack a single 15 million seller so who's the one with lower expectations again. Why do people leave out nintendo games as if they aren't games, i guess because Halo and GT can't crack 15 million Mario shouldn't count.

Why do people leave out Nintendo games? Well I didn't. I said it was funny coming from a company which called Wii Music a failure to call this game a success.

Anyway you'll find the attach rate between say Halo or Call of Duty to be similar to that of Mario Kart which will again be similar to the attach rate on the Gamecube. Nothing much changed except the number of people to sell those games to.


Get on Steam Tim instead of causing trouble on the forums! 

Anyway the genres and sales trends are way different for the category.

Wii Music that belongs to the Wii series, catered to a big audience, and it was the worst selling out of the series.  It also sold less than the Guitar Hero games at the time until that series was ran into the ground.

On the other hand GoldenEye is the best opening for any FPS on Wii. 

The genres, people targeted, and sales expectations for both games are completely different so for Wii Music not to sell what they wanted is not related to what they were expecting from an entirely different series/genre/game and you really have no grounds to call them out on their consistency in this case.



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Its the Best FPS on Wii. I hope it goes on to sell a million or two so we get more well made Bond games.



Squilliam said:
phenom08 said:

@ Squilliam

Include Wii third party games because the last time i checked the wii had the highest selling games and if you ask me call of duty should be doing alot better than what it is, Mario kart is pushing 23 million pretty good for a console filled with "soccer moms" that buy more games than 360 owners. The 360 and ps3 both lack a single 15 million seller so who's the one with lower expectations again. Why do people leave out nintendo games as if they aren't games, i guess because Halo and GT can't crack 15 million Mario shouldn't count.

Why do people leave out Nintendo games? Well I didn't. I said it was funny coming from a company which called Wii Music a failure to call this game a success.

Anyway you'll find the attach rate between say Halo or Call of Duty to be similar to that of Mario Kart which will again be similar to the attach rate on the Gamecube. Nothing much changed except the number of people to sell those games to.

According to your logic Halo Reach shouldn't even track lower than Halo 3 for a single week because its on a bigger userbase(which it has) and Call of Duty's attach rate is no where near mario kart's attach rate, call of duty is available on every console and its only been extremely successful on two of them and still got outsold by a game available only on the wii. You should learn how to calculate attach rates. You should also learn game sales aren't limited to a console's userbase, that's why they sell consoles.



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phenom08 said:
Squilliam said:
phenom08 said:

@ Squilliam

Include Wii third party games because the last time i checked the wii had the highest selling games and if you ask me call of duty should be doing alot better than what it is, Mario kart is pushing 23 million pretty good for a console filled with "soccer moms" that buy more games than 360 owners. The 360 and ps3 both lack a single 15 million seller so who's the one with lower expectations again. Why do people leave out nintendo games as if they aren't games, i guess because Halo and GT can't crack 15 million Mario shouldn't count.

Why do people leave out Nintendo games? Well I didn't. I said it was funny coming from a company which called Wii Music a failure to call this game a success.

Anyway you'll find the attach rate between say Halo or Call of Duty to be similar to that of Mario Kart which will again be similar to the attach rate on the Gamecube. Nothing much changed except the number of people to sell those games to.

According to your logic Halo Reach shouldn't even track lower than Halo 3 for a single week because its on a bigger userbase(which it has) and Call of Duty's attach rate is no where near mario kart's attach rate, call of duty is available on every console and its only been extremely successful on two of them and still got outsold by a game available only on the wii. You should learn how to calculate attach rates. You should also learn game sales aren't limited to a console's userbase, that's why they sell consoles.

Condescending? Yes.



Tease.

Squilliam said:
phenom08 said:
Squilliam said:
phenom08 said:

@ Squilliam

Include Wii third party games because the last time i checked the wii had the highest selling games and if you ask me call of duty should be doing alot better than what it is, Mario kart is pushing 23 million pretty good for a console filled with "soccer moms" that buy more games than 360 owners. The 360 and ps3 both lack a single 15 million seller so who's the one with lower expectations again. Why do people leave out nintendo games as if they aren't games, i guess because Halo and GT can't crack 15 million Mario shouldn't count.

Why do people leave out Nintendo games? Well I didn't. I said it was funny coming from a company which called Wii Music a failure to call this game a success.

Anyway you'll find the attach rate between say Halo or Call of Duty to be similar to that of Mario Kart which will again be similar to the attach rate on the Gamecube. Nothing much changed except the number of people to sell those games to.

According to your logic Halo Reach shouldn't even track lower than Halo 3 for a single week because its on a bigger userbase(which it has) and Call of Duty's attach rate is no where near mario kart's attach rate, call of duty is available on every console and its only been extremely successful on two of them and still got outsold by a game available only on the wii. You should learn how to calculate attach rates. You should also learn game sales aren't limited to a console's userbase, that's why they sell consoles.

Condescending? Yes.


Heck, I can be more polite.

Userbase does not mean an equivalent sale of a certain game. Any look at multiplatform sales on the last generation will show that almost no series sold at a ratio equal to the PS2/GC/Xbox userbases. Some favored the GC, some favored the Xbox, and some favored the PS2. Even now, assuming attach rate is the same, then no game available on the PS3 and 360 would sell better on the PS3, since it still has a slightly smaller userbase, but we still see a lot of games sell better, even in the west.

So userbase=/=attach rate to any one game.



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
Squilliam said:
phenom08 said:
Squilliam said:
phenom08 said:

@ Squilliam

Include Wii third party games because the last time i checked the wii had the highest selling games and if you ask me call of duty should be doing alot better than what it is, Mario kart is pushing 23 million pretty good for a console filled with "soccer moms" that buy more games than 360 owners. The 360 and ps3 both lack a single 15 million seller so who's the one with lower expectations again. Why do people leave out nintendo games as if they aren't games, i guess because Halo and GT can't crack 15 million Mario shouldn't count.

Why do people leave out Nintendo games? Well I didn't. I said it was funny coming from a company which called Wii Music a failure to call this game a success.

Anyway you'll find the attach rate between say Halo or Call of Duty to be similar to that of Mario Kart which will again be similar to the attach rate on the Gamecube. Nothing much changed except the number of people to sell those games to.

According to your logic Halo Reach shouldn't even track lower than Halo 3 for a single week because its on a bigger userbase(which it has) and Call of Duty's attach rate is no where near mario kart's attach rate, call of duty is available on every console and its only been extremely successful on two of them and still got outsold by a game available only on the wii. You should learn how to calculate attach rates. You should also learn game sales aren't limited to a console's userbase, that's why they sell consoles.

Condescending? Yes.


Heck, I can be more polite.

Userbase does not mean an equivalent sale of a certain game. Any look at multiplatform sales on the last generation will show that almost no series sold at a ratio equal to the PS2/GC/Xbox userbases. Some favored the GC, some favored the Xbox, and some favored the PS2. Even now, assuming attach rate is the same, then no game available on the PS3 and 360 would sell better on the PS3, since it still has a slightly smaller userbase, but we still see a lot of games sell better, even in the west.

So userbase=/=attach rate to any one game.

sorry for sounding so rude, i thought games sell consoles would be pretty known by now since this is a sells site and the facts are right in front of us



phenom08 said:

sorry for sounding so rude, i thought games sell consoles would be pretty known by now since this is a sells site and the facts are right in front of us


Hey, I learned that polite is far better than rude (and that wasn't easy for me, since I have psychological anger issues), no matter the situation.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Good thing Nintendo let us all know that it's a success because Activision hasn't said much of anything since it launched.