I'm gonna go ahead and suggest that RUSE would have sold 20K less on PS3 if it didn't have Move support and it would be at about the same sales as the 360 version. So Move pushed RUSE about as much as it could be pushed. I've got it and I'm liking it well enough, though I'm not glued to it like I was glued to games like Age of Empires II and Age of Mythology for months.

Oh, and Squill, there's something buggy about Civ IV on my PC, or rather there's something buggy on my PC about Civ IV.

I only notice it because it affects my console of choice. Otherwise, why should I care?

Examples?  Really though, comments like this are inviting fights, and without real references to who you're actually breaking the content rule since you're lacking proof to back up that claim essentially I'm saying if you want to serve crow actually find/save the posts, if not stop it, it's as easy as that.

On topic:  2.5 Moves are reasonably better than what numbers I can find for Eye Toy on PS2, but like with many add-ons I'm worried about support, 2.5 isn't big enough for games to use it exclusively and having multiple inputs is sometimes seen as more work than third parties are willing to put out.

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Pretty sweet, I wonder what numbers they'll be doing across the holidays.

Well you're obviously wrong about Move and RUSE but thats beside the point. It was a Move game and it flopped. Obviously it was the fault of Move. Precedent demands that I take this line of thinking. If its good enough for the Wii then well it has to be ported to the PS3 as well.

Regarding Civ IV do you have patch 1.51 or thereabouts? Also have you updated your video card driver?

The biggest selling game for move is Sports Champions at around 680,000 after 8 weeks on sale, so either most of the move owners didnt buy a game or sony are wrong

I think Sony understand that they have to put in more effort now.  With PS2 / Eye Toy they were just tossing out HW and mostly assuming some developers would support it due to their dominance.

Those days are long gone and I'm pretty comfortable they know they will need to ensure - themselves - that Move gets plenty of support initially to push the install base to where third party developers will support it.  I also think they took the Wii Too approach as the almost identical control schemes mean delivering a title to Wii/PS3 with motion controls is now a doddle - so they no doubt expect to see a lot of titles target both consoles also helping their cause.

What does that have to do with Sony's expectations? Not to mention that SC is only bundled in NA, it's not guaranteed to sell well.

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