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kowenicki said:
leatherhat said:

motion controls are terrible, kinect is very limited in what it can do, gaming is dying, oh great more exercise games, motion controls are worse than standard controls etc. etc. etc. 

 

Sorry for half assing it but I'm working on a presentation 


spent any meaningful time with it?


Can it play ninja gaiden? Can it play a shooter, a fighter or a platformer? Not with any ease or intuitiveness. Its very limited in the types of games it can play. 



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Seece said:
phinch1 said:
Seece said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

As expected, impressive numbers

lol why do you keep saying "as expected" as to sort of dampen its success?


Seece I'm not being funny but chill out please yeah? it was expected for kinect to sell well, especially after its $500 million marketing campaign

p.s I like how when someone asked for sales for Move earlier to compare you used vg-charts.....known for under tracking...even with kinect...just saying

No you're alright, I asked him a question in a perfectly calm mannor.

I'm also very sorry someone asked for Move numbers and I used the only site on the net that tracks install base on a site i work on .. yeah how dare I use VGCHartz numbers.

Dude. Check what site you're on right now.


You got over protective of kinect quoted and questioned him when there was no need,it made you sound like a lads mrs when she has taken something he has said out of context (hand on hip) and whats that suppose to mean? you took it as some sort of dig.

yeah i did check what site im on,its definitely the site that has under tracked Ps3 sales and even greenburg laughed at the sales Vgchartz posted for kinect.




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De85 said:
dib8rman said:
donsterydo2 said:
Seece said:
FireBringer said:

Actually it isn't selling faster than "move", infact they (MS) lowered projections because of it. MS suffered better initial sales than Move did (week 1) but now they are on their same straw. I believe 360 owners are a little bit more protective of their tech and bought it than on Sony's camp. This is why they bought it on pre-order more so than the Move. But since these guys are gone from the market now, their sales will go stale just like the info says for data after week 1 so far. Once the buzz is gone, Kinect isn't anything special and won't sell as well as you think. Kinect is a snore fest, not ONE good game out nor coming out. Sad but true. I don't know a single person who bought the Kinect, and I know mess loads of 360 owners. Sorry, but I know this Kinect hype is just that, hype.. When the Black 360 revision came out, they all upgraded, and that sold well. None bought this, so I know it will die out flat in the water after the initial burst of sales. Not trying to hate, but people aren't gonna spend $150 for a stupid camera that costs $50 to make. Microsoft has to make the product a lot more appealing than it's now..

Never seen so much denial, rofl


He fails at so many levels :)


I agree with Firebringer =D, but he failed to remember that people bought the 360 regardless of all it's short comings.

A next gen machine that wasn't internet capable out the box, couldn't display in HD out of the box, to get it on the internet you needed to buy a proprietary dongle that would run your $100 extra dollars oh and $60 games =P.

The guys who baught 360 did so despite knowing that it could or actually would RROD on you to which you've probably lost a system and a game and that for the first two or three years Microsoft refused to acknowledge this issue.

People baught it despite all the issues that plauged the machine.

But firebringer hit the nail on the head, games... are the games our enough to warrent the purchases. If his speculation is true then nope =P.


I'm not sure what system you're talking about, because when I brought my xbox home I had it displaying in HD and logged into live that same day, without having purchased any extra equipment...


The first couple of years for the Xbox360 didnt come with Wi-fi. While Ps3 and even Wii did. Alas I won't argue facts like an opinion go do the research on your own time.



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phinch1 said:
Seece said:

No you're alright, I asked him a question in a perfectly calm mannor.

I'm also very sorry someone asked for Move numbers and I used the only site on the net that tracks install base on a site i work on .. yeah how dare I use VGCHartz numbers.

Dude. Check what site you're on right now.


You got over protective of kinect quoted and questioned him when there was no need,it made you sound like a lads mrs when she has taken something he has said out of context (hand on hip) and whats that suppose to mean? you took it as some sort of dig.

yeah i did check what site im on,its definitely the site that has under tracked Ps3 sales and even greenburg laughed at the sales Vgchartz posted for kinect.



I'm not taking anything out of context, I know exactly what they're doing, and I've heard that "expected" line from half a dozen Sony fans recently.

I'm quite happy with VGChartz numbers (as are most here) so I'll continuing using them. If you have a problem with them then that's your fault. I'm not going to use this sites numbers on this site because you don't agree with them.



 

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I think it's more then that actually. Most likely VGCharts underestimated again. They has sold over 500K in the first 2 days in the U.S. alone.  Have this even launched in Japan yet. The technology is right up their alley, but the fact that it requires 6sq feet of space isn't good for Japanese apartments and homes. Most Japan apartments are very small. If you've ever bean in a cruise ship cabin, you'll no what I'm talking about. lol!! I have a house and my den area has just the right amount of room, mainly because my recliner broke and we had to toss it. I still think it's going to sell crazy on Black Friday and if I know Microsoft, they most likely held stock back just for that day. I expect retailers will get large shipments next week just for the day after Thanksgiving.



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dib8rman said:
De85 said:
dib8rman said:
donsterydo2 said:
Seece said:
FireBringer said:

Actually it isn't selling faster than "move", infact they (MS) lowered projections because of it. MS suffered better initial sales than Move did (week 1) but now they are on their same straw. I believe 360 owners are a little bit more protective of their tech and bought it than on Sony's camp. This is why they bought it on pre-order more so than the Move. But since these guys are gone from the market now, their sales will go stale just like the info says for data after week 1 so far. Once the buzz is gone, Kinect isn't anything special and won't sell as well as you think. Kinect is a snore fest, not ONE good game out nor coming out. Sad but true. I don't know a single person who bought the Kinect, and I know mess loads of 360 owners. Sorry, but I know this Kinect hype is just that, hype.. When the Black 360 revision came out, they all upgraded, and that sold well. None bought this, so I know it will die out flat in the water after the initial burst of sales. Not trying to hate, but people aren't gonna spend $150 for a stupid camera that costs $50 to make. Microsoft has to make the product a lot more appealing than it's now..

Never seen so much denial, rofl


He fails at so many levels :)


I agree with Firebringer =D, but he failed to remember that people bought the 360 regardless of all it's short comings.

A next gen machine that wasn't internet capable out the box, couldn't display in HD out of the box, to get it on the internet you needed to buy a proprietary dongle that would run your $100 extra dollars oh and $60 games =P.

The guys who baught 360 did so despite knowing that it could or actually would RROD on you to which you've probably lost a system and a game and that for the first two or three years Microsoft refused to acknowledge this issue.

People baught it despite all the issues that plauged the machine.

But firebringer hit the nail on the head, games... are the games our enough to warrent the purchases. If his speculation is true then nope =P.


I'm not sure what system you're talking about, because when I brought my xbox home I had it displaying in HD and logged into live that same day, without having purchased any extra equipment...


The first couple of years for the Xbox360 didnt come with Wi-fi. While Ps3 and even Wii did. Alas I won't argue facts like an opinion go do the research on your own time.

"to get it on the internet you needed to buy a proprietary dongle that would run your $100 extra dollars"

Lie. Never bought one.




 

kowenicki said:
leatherhat said:
kowenicki said:
leatherhat said:

motion controls are terrible, kinect is very limited in what it can do, gaming is dying, oh great more exercise games, motion controls are worse than standard controls etc. etc. etc. 

 

Sorry for half assing it but I'm working on a presentation 


spent any meaningful time with it?


Can it play ninja gaiden? Can it play a shooter, a fighter or a platformer? Not with any ease or intuitiveness. Its very limited in the types of games it can play. 

thats a no then... in which case you are just trolling..


Well obviously its a no, and obviously it was trolling. Did you not get the joke? The various etc.? The laundry list of problems people have with motion devices casually checked off?  I'm Joking around, its freaking video games. You gotta lighten up man, you're gonna have a heart attack. 

And I notice you didn't say anything about how limited kinect and motion gaming is. Because you know it in your heart to be true.



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Seece said:
kowenicki said:
kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:
Eddie_Raja said:
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I'm sorry, but 745k install base is so wrong.  Every single one of my friends who bought move, bought ONE move controler, and no eyetoy because they all already have one (Not saying everyone did, just keep that in mind).  You guys need to stop coming up with these outrageous claims about what is the actual install base.  All I'm saying is that we will never know what the install base is, but I would guess it is about 1 million, if there are only 1.5 million moves sold.

 

P.S.  Of coarse Kinect is still selling better than Move but I am getting tired of people trying to state what the install base is because NOBODY knows!  Just keep in mind that as long as kinect has sold a similar amount of cameras, it is higher.  Oh and don't get me started on the claim that no one is buying move software....some people....

I agree we will never know the install base, but when are all these unique adopters going to start buying the move software?  Only software sales can provide any real indication and those arent too sparkling right now.

doesn't help much that most of move's line-up has been thrown out as if it is invalid or something.  i got and love my move but i'm re-playing heavy rain and i'm sure a lot of people are playing resident evil and mag and all the other games backward compatible with move.  then some of the best games are psn based like tumble, echochrome ii, under siege so obviously we'll never see those sales either.  and things like lbp2, killzone3, dead space won't count either because they are move exclusive games.  for some reason, eyepet isn't allowed to count either even though it's basically a move exclusive.

move is great and i love it and it is influencing which games i buy based off of what supports it....but i'm not going to buy a crappytacular game like kung fu rider.

i'm quite happy to see the good sales for kinect software but when kinect doesn't have any backwards compatibility or downloadable titles like move does it isn't as you say a "like for like" comparision.

I see that, but surely Move has to get some big selling unique titles to make it a success?  if its always going to be mainly  just an alternative control system it is never going to get any serious traction in sales.

And devs will never know exactly what the breakdown is between Move/Traditional controls used. How will they know that using move will greatly benefit their game? All we've seen so far is that Kinect only SW is flying of the shelves and apart from Sports Champions, move SW is lacklustre.

i get your point and i certainly is valid, how do devs know what the breakdown is and whether or not implementing move controls is worth their time...i don't have an answer for you on that.

...but kinect software isn't flying off the shelves as you say.  after kinect sports, dance central, and kinectamals the other games are pretty low.  at least in the case of move compatible games the existence of other play controls means you aren't limiting your user base.  right now the user base is 1.3M for kinect vs. the 40-some million the 360 is at.  doing well compared to move-exlusives isn't enough sales, it actually has to make the developer money and 30k isn't going to do that.

anyhoo, sorcery is the one move-exlusive game to look out for imo.  if that flops then i will say without a doubt to you that move isn't a success.  until then, the numbers are just too muddled to really know what the heck is going on for sony.



Seece said:
dib8rman said:
De85 said:
dib8rman said:
donsterydo2 said:
Seece said:
FireBringer said:

Actually it isn't selling faster than "move", infact they (MS) lowered projections because of it. MS suffered better initial sales than Move did (week 1) but now they are on their same straw. I believe 360 owners are a little bit more protective of their tech and bought it than on Sony's camp. This is why they bought it on pre-order more so than the Move. But since these guys are gone from the market now, their sales will go stale just like the info says for data after week 1 so far. Once the buzz is gone, Kinect isn't anything special and won't sell as well as you think. Kinect is a snore fest, not ONE good game out nor coming out. Sad but true. I don't know a single person who bought the Kinect, and I know mess loads of 360 owners. Sorry, but I know this Kinect hype is just that, hype.. When the Black 360 revision came out, they all upgraded, and that sold well. None bought this, so I know it will die out flat in the water after the initial burst of sales. Not trying to hate, but people aren't gonna spend $150 for a stupid camera that costs $50 to make. Microsoft has to make the product a lot more appealing than it's now..

Never seen so much denial, rofl


He fails at so many levels :)


I agree with Firebringer =D, but he failed to remember that people bought the 360 regardless of all it's short comings.

A next gen machine that wasn't internet capable out the box, couldn't display in HD out of the box, to get it on the internet you needed to buy a proprietary dongle that would run your $100 extra dollars oh and $60 games =P.

The guys who baught 360 did so despite knowing that it could or actually would RROD on you to which you've probably lost a system and a game and that for the first two or three years Microsoft refused to acknowledge this issue.

People baught it despite all the issues that plauged the machine.

But firebringer hit the nail on the head, games... are the games our enough to warrent the purchases. If his speculation is true then nope =P.


I'm not sure what system you're talking about, because when I brought my xbox home I had it displaying in HD and logged into live that same day, without having purchased any extra equipment...


The first couple of years for the Xbox360 didnt come with Wi-fi. While Ps3 and even Wii did. Alas I won't argue facts like an opinion go do the research on your own time.

"to get it on the internet you needed to buy a proprietary dongle that would run your $100 extra dollars"

Lie. Never bought one.


 

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