What are you talking about? He did not  mix up the 3 and 10 day numbers, he commented on the 3 day numbers  on the 10th, when he made that comment kinect was not even out for 10 days.

Vindication for me I think

Ah, so much crow to hand out. "No way VGC Kinect sales estimates are correct", "no way Greenberg would LOL if Kinect sales were same or lower than MS numbers". Yah right. But some people have no honor these days and won't agree they were wrong, even when the facts are out.

The article still says 1.3 in the beginning, you might want to change that.

OT: 1.3m with 10% error margin can be down to 1.17m, which is pretty well in line with "over 1 million" in my opinion.

Even worse for his capabilities, as if it did what it did in 10 days, bitching about the first 3 days sales tracked by VGC, when those numbers were a little bit low, and ioi adjusted them up later, as he just wrote, but they were already compatible even before with the sales it then accumulated in the longer period, was plain dumb. Numbers released by MS for the 10 days are compatible with those tracked by VGC, he complained a lot for almost nothing, and not happy of just complaining, he was a douche while doing so. Not MS' fault, this time nobody wants to blame them, just Greenberg's and nobody else's. Maybe obnoxious kids like him, but when he behaves this way he damages his company's reputation with anybody else.

You evidently didn't bother to read my comments, as it wasn't directed at the VGC numbers,....oh nvm...

Sorry, I was responding to this post:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3754501

ethomaz was commenting at how our numbers are currently higher than MS', and implying that when Greenberg LOL'ed, it was because we were overtracking it like we currently are.

Then you said "1.3 million is less than 475k...wow." As I understand it, you were implying that vgc's numbers said 475k, and MS' were 1.3 million. Because when he LOL'ed we were saying 475k, so you're challenging that argument by saying that MS' are 1.3M and that it isn't less than vgc's numbers but more.

Am I correct about your dialogue? That is correct English interpretation of what was said.

This is why I responded and said that 1.3M is a ten day total, and 475k is a three day total. Not only did they not co-exist, seeing as how 10 days just passed only yesterday, but those are both vgc estimated total. Neither of those numbers came from MS.

alterior as in "alternate"

And that's about as productive as any balanced individual can be in this thread.

The biggest problem is that there is no official public source of numbers.

VGC tries its best ... and usually gets pretty darn close.  

But video games  will never be taken seriously as a medium/art until there are official third-party releases like there seem to be with every other entertainment medium.

But instead, it seems like those in charge are happier poking fun of those try to provide estimates. Very mature behavior.

We all know that Kinect will do well -- at first. But is the market larger then 5-7M for this item? And is the market large enough for people to third parties to make games for it? Those are the long-term questions which will take time to answer.

Mike from Morgantown

The problem is we DID read your posts. You were attempting to crap on VGChartz numbers based on a Microsoft press release that backs them up. It was very funny to read towards the end.