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There's an easy way to test it lord.

Nostalgia will create high opening sales, being a bad game will prevent it from selling what a good action game should even with the brandname association and action-style gaming.

Maybe we can make a bet on sales, lord, would you like that?



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theprof00 said:

I thought wii fans don't read reviews because they are broken.

And what do the reviews say, "it's a great game and it has nothing to do with nostalgia"? It's so obvious that someone affected by nostalgia would say that. 

Some of us do read the reviews, we usually don't agree with them, specially if they bash the controls without actually trying to get use to it, or if they trash the graphics but don't take into account the fun factor, but we still read them some sources more than others because we identify better with those.

The reviews I have read praise the game for itself not for the nostalgia factor, something like this:

Brilliant acting and motion capturing, and a fantastic retelling of a familiar Bond story. Boot up the original N64 game if you're a purist: this is for people who want something new.

or:

"This isn't a remake. It's a new Bond game based on an older film."



Actually I am waiting on long term sales as well. There isn't a bet. I was just calling on the logic of your statment at first.

As for the reviews, I was just nothing them in relation to your other comment. It was what the user reviews that I trust more, and they are still positive (not all, but that's to be expected).



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@mettalicube  you had the best comment yet. These guys dont get it, there will never be a game to match Goldeneye64, even if they were to remake it(which they cant for legal reasons). THere is a hell of alot of competition in the FPS dept. so that remake would suck, because IMHO the game didnt age that well (its not Sonic Adventure bad), back then who was competing with Bond, as much as PS1 handed N64 its ass N64 had one thing PS didnt have on lock. FPSs, PS1 had some but with that controller they sucked. Nothing about this game stands out too much from the other FPSs on the market, how can it? There are probably at least a hundred other shooting games on the market. If you want 64 007 fire up the N64 and have at it or use an emulator, but if you want a great game with a GOOD online multiplayer and good local (dont know why people thought its bad, not so much to mess up in this area) then stop doubting and get this game, this is coming from a primarily PS3/PSP gamer. oh and Craig>>>>>>>Brosnan, there I said it



flagstaad said:
theprof00 said:

I thought wii fans don't read reviews because they are broken.

And what do the reviews say, "it's a great game and it has nothing to do with nostalgia"? It's so obvious that someone affected by nostalgia would say that. 

Some of us do read the reviews, we usually don't agree with them, specially if they bash the controls without actually trying to get use to it, or if they trash the graphics but don't take into account the fun factor, but we still read them some sources more than others because we identify better with those.

The reviews I have read praise the game for itself not for the nostalgia factor, something like this:

Brilliant acting and motion capturing, and a fantastic retelling of a familiar Bond story. Boot up the original N64 game if you're a purist: this is for people who want something new.

or:

"This isn't a remake. It's a new Bond game based on an older film."

fair enough. Just out of curiosity, what score did they give it?



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LordTheNightKnight said:

Actually I am waiting on long term sales as well. There isn't a bet. I was just calling on the logic of your statment at first.

As for the reviews, I was just nothing them in relation to your other comment. It was what the user reviews that I trust more, and they are still positive (not all, but that's to be expected).

I understand that you were simply calling me out, that's fair, I was just being facetious as a front for what I predicted would happen at announcement of the game. I'm not being fair to the game.



theprof00 said:

fair enough. Just out of curiosity, what score did they give it?

9.0 and 8.3, it is a good game that has the problem that will be compared to the original and some people will hate it, other will compare it to call of duty and will hate it, so its hard to get a fair review, but its getting them from more professional reviewers that I was specting (it was not on my buy list, now I have to wait till december to get it). Also it has a horrible release date (next week Call of Duty will send it to oblivion unless its a very bad version), but will continue to sell for a good time because it supports both local multiplayer and online multiplayer, and will get some positive feedback from early adopters.



seems to be doing well review-wise though



Eh I have no problems playing it locally many sites are liking the local, the only problem with local is the lack of bots, but it doesn't kill it by any means.

I really don't know what you're really wanting or what you didn't like since you weren't that descriptive about what doesn't feel right.  For me it did everything right to make local more up to date, load outs, maps that even if large you can find each other, some really awesome modes, and it looks good, not much more I could ask for, the best local FPS on Wii period (though that isn't saying much lol) 



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theprof00 said:

called it.

Goldeneye was good because of the feel of the game, not because of the lore or anything like that.

Wii: goldeneye seems more like every other bond game other than goldeneye .

It's like silent hill.

If they were to remake silent hill, it would be more like "SH:the room" or "SH:homecoming", than actually silent hill. It's not a bad thing (well, in Homecoming's case it is), it's just not the same. Like economy-brand cereal.


You and your analogies -_-



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