LOL. EPIC

I like how ONE QUARTER makes a TREND. And that Q3 was the PS3 Slim year.

What about Q3 2008? 200k seperates them both. How about forcasts for both companies? How about 360 Q4 shippments vs PS3? Or vice versa Q4 2009? Or the fact that the 360 shipped more in relations to what they were shipping (if the 173% and 148% is suppose to indicate increase in shippment).  Non of this shows anything.

Why would Sony be in court if they didn't lie? If you present the truth in such a way where people are gulable enough to think the console is doing better then it is, how is that Sony's fault? You don't get sued for telling the truth. Here look:

Demand for the PS3 is high, and we have shipped an astounding 3.5 million PS3's making this one of the strongest Q3's ever for the PS3!!!!

or

In preparation for the holiday season, we have managed to ship 3.5 million PS3's in order to stock up retailers.

Both say the same thing, Sony can't be sued for saying one over the other. This is not fraud, you should look up the definition of fraud.

Seriously, why are you haggling me on such a little thing? If my opinion isn't 100% unquestionably Sony's why do people always try to argue with me and change my opinion. I never see people insult me when my Nintendo or MS opinion isn't 100%, but for Sony people seem to love to jump on me. It's good not to take information unquestionably, you should give it a try sometime, most large VGChartz adjustments get re-adjusted slightly sometime down the road, and I'm only saying above DS sales is shocking, and I'd take it with a grain of salt.

As for Move, I think it's a gimmick, same with Kinect, and I can find tons of articles to support my opinion, so don't tell me every single review thinks otherwise. Also I don't think there are any good games for move, why get hardware when there is not good software? Sure VGChartz gave Sports Champions above 8/10, but I've seen multiple reviews for it getting 6/10. Also after that what is there? Time Crisis is gettin 5-6/10 on most websites I look at, Tumble looks cool, but $40 for what looks like a PSN game? This is my opinion, I'm not trying to get you to agree, I just think it's shocking that Move is pushing PS3's almost as well as a Price Cut and Slim redesign...

Anyway I'm not here to argue to quality of Move, I just don't see why Move would push more consoles then a good game (like Halo, God of War, or Super Mario Galaxy 2). Like why is Move pushing more consoles then Wii Fit? I would think most people interested in a PS3/360 would be interested in HD gaming, not HD Wii imitations...

The unfortunate reality of all of this?

PS3 is allegedly selling better than what was believed in regions where widely accepted tracking services are not available.  So now we're stuck with shipped figures as being the most accurate figures out there, but they aren't reflective of install base.

Yeah, its times like this where I think about how much energy we spend on these numbers and decide to get off of the site and go play some games.  See ya.

This is getting sadder each passing day. But keep coming with these damn excuses.

Honestly Mike, at least some of the recent adjustments shouldn't have came as that big of a shock. I figured you would have picked up on the possibility that we were undertracking the PS3 in Latin America after I hinted at it here:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3699000

Note how I said "according to VGC our Latin American install base is 650k-700k".

I basically knew that we HAD to have been undertracking the PS3 down there once I heard how much PES 2010 and GOW3 had sold. Do you really think an annual franchise could reach almost a 50% attach ratio?

If you're argument is: "Move sucks, why should it give the ps3 a huge boost" then i'm going to have to say that your opinion isn't fact. Point is, Move works and people are buying it, whether or not you like it is your own opinion. These data and adjustments ONLY tells us that the MOVE is a product that WORKS and consumers are noticing it, but its quality is something that is judged by people like you and me. anyway, i'm sure kinect will do better but hey i won't sound so butthurt when we finally get the sales data for it. 

Tumble is a PSN game and it costs $10

You know, I am sure that because of the TS's reason, Sony probably overshipped PS2 by over 50 million because of Christmas. But still taking that into account, Sony will have sold near to 100 million PS2.

But never mind, now I have found out this interesting fact. Listen. Sony has actually, GASP, been buying back the consoles to inflate the figures. In fact they bought 50 million of their own PS2. Thats how they win the game. Either that or they force a gun down retailers to order PS2 in huge numbers.

With some common sense, humility and for a fact, PS3 has been shipping more than X365 on a yearly basis ever since they launched.

In fact, Microsoft probably inflated the one year head start figure to make it sound like they had a head lead of 5.5 million over PS3. I am sure that figure is more like 550k only.

Most of PS3's adjustments are for EMEAA, not Americas. However this isn't what shocked me, what surprised me is that Move is pushing almost as many consoles as the PS3 Slim redesign and price cut. It's just, it's a Wii imitation wand, how the heck is that pushing consoles?

I just figured most people interested in HD consoles were interested in it for games, or maybe blu-ray. If you want motion gaming, get a Wii. If you want Motion gaming, and HD gaming, get a Wii and a 360 arcade, or just pay the $100 extra for a PS3/360 Elite and get a Wii as well.

I expected Move to boost console sales, but I for sure thought Halo would offset that and still have MS in the lead... thats all, and PS3 above DS? I'm skeptical.