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I think they're bad and annoying, but I would be just getting old as well.



 

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RageBot said:
Hapimeses said:

Yes, there is. And, in every previous generation, there was a lot of something else. Whether it was autotune instead of singing, computers instead of bands, electric synthesisers instead of pianos, drum machines instead of drums, electric guitars instead of guitars, big bands instead of orchestras, everyone has had something to complain about concerning the 'music of this crappy generation' down through the decades. Hell, it was happening long before modern music. Just look into how what we refer to as classical music took its shape (the pop of its era for many). Later, what we see as crappy, modern nonsense will turn to the classics of tomorrow; or, the best examples, at least. I mean, really, who doesn't love a good bit of 80s' synthpop? That's when music was real, man! They didn't need real instruments! ... uh oh...


No, this isn't the same |:

How many pepole today still listem to Elvis? or 50's-60's Blues? The Beatles? Pimk Floyd? Led Zeppelin? Deep Purple? Eric Clapton? Yes? Genesis? Rush? Iron Maiden? Metallica? Guns N' Roses? Nirvana? Queen? Tupac?

A LOT.

How many pepole still listen to N-Sync? or The Backstreet Boys? Bands who's success, for their time, was as big, if not bigger, than most of the bands stated above?

Not that many...

This is probably the generation with the most young pepole who despise the way music looks today.

Boy bands typically are forgotten after a while. Does anyone today still listen to The Jackson 5?



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RageBot said:
Hapimeses said:
Rainbird said:
Hapimeses said:
Rainbird said:
Hapimeses said:

Indeed. We quite literally have seen it all, and listened to it all, before. But, for those whippersnappers (which we were not so long ago, falling for the same tricks), it's the first time around so feels fresh and new. Pop is just a happy recycling for the kids and the nostalgic.

Yes, I know, a massive simplification, but it suffices to make my point.

Simplication FTW!

But yeah, I know this whole thing about old, boring folks nagging on new stuff is a part of the cycle of life, it's always entertaining though.

It certainly is. Plus, as you move from the younger generation into the not-so-young generation, your funky moves soon become an awesome Dad Dance, which is, of course, full of win. Once you've perfected that, you have kids and embarrass them for the next thirty years, all the time observing that music was better when you were young. Which, of course, it was. For every generation.

How awesome we are. But still, like people are saying, there's a lot of autotune and what have you going around.

Yes, there is. And, in every previous generation, there was a lot of something else. Whether it was autotune instead of singing, computers instead of bands, electric synthesisers instead of pianos, drum machines instead of drums, electric guitars instead of guitars, big bands instead of orchestras, everyone has had something to complain about concerning the 'music of this crappy generation' down through the decades. Hell, it was happening long before modern music. Just look into how what we refer to as classical music took its shape (the pop of its era for many). Later, what we see as crappy, modern nonsense will turn to the classics of tomorrow; or, the best examples, at least. I mean, really, who doesn't love a good bit of 80s' synthpop? That's when music was real, man! They didn't need real instruments! ... uh oh...


No, this isn't the same |:

How many pepole today still listem to Elvis? or 50's-60's Blues? The Beatles? Pimk Floyd? Led Zeppelin? Deep Purple? Eric Clapton? Yes? Genesis? Rush? Iron Maiden? Metallica? Guns N' Roses? Nirvana? Queen? Tupac?

A LOT.

How many pepole still listen to N-Sync? or The Backstreet Boys? Bands who's success, for their time, was as big, if not bigger, than most of the bands stated above?

Not that many...

This is probably the generation with the most young pepole who despise the way music looks today.


You're welcome to your opinion. However, I disagree. It's easy to cherrypick classics from the past, but trust me it's just as easy to cherrypick successful bands of yesterday that mean very little today. All it will take is one trend shift and suddenly a forgotten band will be huge again. Look to how Take That rose, fell, then rose again to see what I mean.

Still, it's all largely irrelevant to my central point: the situation today is pretty much exactly the same as it has always been, just with different names being used to make each point.



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That's because "music" those days is more about marketing and selling yourself through carefully created image then real talent and good voice. Having big publisher company behind your back with good ties into radio stations also helps ;)



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The music is just bad these days and to make matters worse, it seems like the worst of the worst gets treated the best.

That horrible Beyonce song "Put a ring on it" won Song of the Year last year. It is just one stupid line repeated like 400 times with some "Oh oh, oh oh oh, oh oh oh" thrown in between.



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Euphoria14 said:

 "Oh oh, oh oh oh, oh oh oh" thrown in between.


Sex sells?



I must say that I think there are multiple things happening at the same time ...

First off, age does play a factor but for very different reasons than it did for previous generations. Over the past 10 to 20 years music has been in a fairly static state where most new popular acts are just derivations of what came before them. If you're under 15 (or so) you probably would be oblivious to this, if you're between 15 and 25 you'd probably be somewhat aware of how stale things are, and if you're over 25 odds are pretty good that you're bored senselessly with everything that is being produced.

The second problem is that the music industry has become "American Idolized", meaning that the industry has stopped looking for established quality acts to sign and (mostly) focuses on finding young marketable groups to "develop". In the 80s and 90s many new rock groups were being signed in their late 20s after a decade of developing as musicians, while today most new groups are being aggressively marketed in their early 20s. While it may not seem all that important, a decade of discovering your sound and developing your skill will likely result in a much different product than 12 months of "development" from a studio.

Finally, part of being successful at on a wide scale is being generic enough that "everyone" likes you. While achieving popularity often means you're talented, and by many measures your product is probably high quality, it tends not to be particularly interesting for people who're looking for something unique or original. If you put it into terms of movies or videogames, very few of the top 100 highest grossing movies or videogames are particularly unique or original, and if you're looking for something a bit different you often have to look for it in less conventional places.



Transitionaly music generation. The younger like it because the older do not. If the older crowd liked rap and hip hop. That style of music would never have caught on. During certain growing periods(teens). The young seek to define themselves from their parents. Music has always been part of that definition.

Wanna make something uncool to your kids(if you have them). Dress like them, act like them and hang out like them in their hang out spots. Especially approach them. Oh and take pictures.



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It's a mix of both.



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