pizzahut451 said:
Embriyo will become a human being in 3 months, a seed can only become a plant.
It's called an analogy. Yes a tree seed will become a tree and a human seed will become a human, so the only property different between them is where they'll end up. Both forms of seed do not equate it's end result, you have not refuted this point.
Where did I say that the father/male shouldnt have any responsibility???
You didn't but you implied that it was the mother's fault by saying that "The mother should have thought of it before getting pregnant"
Ending a life=Taking away someones life. Diffrent definition, same point. And i told you millions of times before that I persoanlly consider an embriyo a future human being, (it has a fucking human DNA) and that in no more than 3-4 months it will become a real human.
I'm really having trouble understanding your sentence structure. Is english a second language to you? Ending a life=taking away someones life, yeah those are two different ways to say the same thing, but neither has a different definition. But I digress, the issue at hand is not your confusing way of talking. But your central argument, that an embryo is equivalent to a fully formed human who has gone through the entire developmental cycle of embryogenisis because of the fact that it contains human DNA has already been proven invalid. Sperm and eggs both also contain human DNA as was already stated, so what's the difference between ejaculating on the floor and removing an embryo from the uterus before it becomes human?
So stopping someone from having a life is very diffrent than stopping someonne from living a life???
And stop using that stupid semen argument. Even when you ejaculite inside a women only 1 out of 300 million semens get to the egg, and there is nothing you can do about it, so you're not taking aways anyone's chances of life.
Actually by your standards you are. You see your argument rests on the fact that human DNA is equivalent to a human being. But since sperm contain human DNA and many of them die as a result of natural biological processes this argument is weak. Every one of those sperm under other conditions (it's mostly luck, but also the strength of the outer wall of the egg and environmental factors) could have impregnated that egg and created a different person in the future. If preventing the life of a possible human being is murder then everytime you have sex it's murder, everytime you wank off its murder, everytime you don't it's murder anyways because your sperm will simply die off inside you if not used and that prevents the formation of a possible human being, which by your standards is murder.
Its the law of nature. The diffrence between that and abortion is, that ejaculation and the death of millions of semens ARE NATURAL and there is nothing natural about abortion,
Ah, the weakest argument of all 'it isn't natural' Tell me what you define as nature, if a natural occurence is rooted in nature then it's a critical term to define in this argument. In reality everything is natural, because we are part of nature. You might believe that humanity is somehow separate from nature be we are not. We are just an intelligent animal on the planet earth. Did you know that you can use the herb Pennyroyal as well as other herbs to cause an abortion? Even if you deny the logical conclusion and deem natural as being things not created by humans abortion is completely natural.
because you're no longer killing just some semen but a living being with a human DNA, that will soon become a true human baby
Sperm have human DNA, semen is just the delivery fluid.
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