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Armads said:
pizzahut451 said:
Armads said:
pizzahut451 said:
Armads said:
pizzahut451 said:
Armads said:
pizzahut451 said:

whats the diffrence between an abortion and murder again?


The fetus isn't a human being.


Its a living being that will later become a human, with real personality and feelings. So a true murder happens only when a human is murderd?

Sperm is also a living being by the same standards.  You're committing homicide everytime you wank and everytime a woman has a period by that logic.


Sperm cannot become a huamn being without sexual intercourse. A fetus, however, is a future human being that will grown into alive human baby and later in adult human with personality. A sperm cant grow into anything human.

But the DNA is already present in the sperm, the sperm is a living cell.  The fact that it has DNA and is a living cell means that it's just as alive as an egg that a sperm cell has fertilized which also has DNA and is a living cell.  Your argument of life starting at conception doesn't make much sense because the embryo hasn't even developed a brain yet much less a heart, liver, or lungs.  It doesn't feel or think so it doesn't have any form of sentience and it doesn't even have any organs beyond the organelles in it's cells.

You dont see the point. A sperm cant become a human being.I never denied sperm is a living being. But a fetus is developing into a human being and will eventually become one. So if you kill a fetus, you killed a future human being. A sperm cant become a human inside a man. By killing the fetus, you are taking away its chance to becoma a human and have a good life.


No, I saw what you were saying I just didn't agree with it.  You see your argument is basiclly saying that a seed is equivalent to what it will become, this argument is false from the start.  A seed is not an apple tree, and just as destroying seeds is not deforestatio halting the fertilization process is not murder of a human being, it's the prevention of the creation of one.  There is a very distinct difference between halting construction and destruction of a completed building.


A seed is not an apple tree but it will become one, and you cant use examples like buildings and trees to prove that stopping a living future human being from having a life. Nobody should have that right. The mother should have though of her before getting pregnant.

Murder-Taking away someones life

Abortion-Taking aways someone's chances of life (or taking away someone's life in advance)

Yeah, BIG fucking diffrence