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indodude said:

Isn't it already impossible for a 12 year old to go to a retailer and buy Halo:Reach or Call of Duty from retailers such as Gamestop, Best Buy, and Walmart?


I believe so, I don't believe you get fined though. I could be wrong. This is similar to selling tobacco to minors I guess. with the penalties



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Well I've argued this in other forums so I'll just post my views again here.

I am against this law because it is obvious game companies will have to censor their games. The law does not strengthen existing ratings, it allows individual states to set their own guidelines for age restricted sales and fractures the current system. Basically if it goes through each state will have its own rating system. Its the opposite of what Europe is trying to do now, which is simplifying the system under one rating system PEGI.

For example in New York a game may get a PG-13 but in Cali it would effectively be an 18 because it could have an image of a person that the player can kill. The manufacturer is not going to create a version just for Cali, they are just going to cut the content out of the game or change the images etc. Now if 10 or 20 states each have their own different standard it becomes a nightmare.



Within reason I don't think that violent video games, television, movies, music or comic books have a negative impact on children ...

With that said, I think it is foolish for any retailer to sell video games to minors that have a ESRB rating that indicates that it is inappropriate for their age group. I don't see it as denying content to minors as much as empowering parents to make informed decisions about the kinds of content their children are exposed to.



indodude said:

Isn't it already impossible for a 12 year old to go to a retailer and buy Halo:Reach or Call of Duty from retailers such as Gamestop, Best Buy, and Walmart?


 Yes and No.

It is, but only because of "self imposed" guidelines and in many casees state guidlines.



ishiki said:

I don't see the difference compared to R-rated movies and what some places are already supposed to do. they'd just be legally obligated to card people or face a fine.

But this could cause minors to steal games more... Maybe not.

I don't think know if their fines when going into an R-rated movie, but I get carded everytime and I'm 20. and 1/2 asian :P

I Don't think videogames people make people violent.


I sometimes still get carded for violent videogames... and I'm 28!

Does my avatar really look that young?



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damkira said:

Its not up to the courts to decide morality. Parents can choose whether or not to buy their kids violent video games and I think that if you look at any research, it will show that violent games actually have a cathartic effect rather than cause real life violence.


errr... yeah it's up to court to interpret the law and the law defines morality.

Personnaly I believe music should be free and artists should be paid only for performing... but for me to copy music is illegal which makes it also immoral in today's society, because of law.

 

I don't mind violent games... I mind gory and over the top violence in game...



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