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The hardware moving effect of Kinect may be overestimated by some in this thread.

Yes, it will be positive, which will be reflected in YoY gains when all the chips are tallied in January, but if you have a projection from MS of about 3m Kinect units, which is presumably around the total number of Kinect units they will have shipped to retail through the holidays (you can't simultaneously have channel stuffing and near 100% sell through), by that reasoning (not too crazy for the typical, impartial, reasonable individual) Kinect will actually be directly responsible for the sales of less than 3m consoles over the holidays given that the 3m Kinect number includes add-on kits that likely don't even number as low as 1m of those 3m total projected sales.

Sure, one could argue that Kinect will make consumers go out and buy a 360, but if they don't bother to pick up a Kinect peripheral at the same time (or just buy a bundle and save $50), it's a thin argument to say that Kinect "sold" a console.



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Has there ever been a more evenly splintered marketshare? I don't remember seeing weekly totals so close.



Looking at the trends it would seem the PS3 is no longer has the same value proposition it once had against the 360.  The 360 has not had a price cut yet its sales have accelerated so much it's clear to see it reversed a trend.  It would seem the 360 now has lost some of its deficienes in the eyes of the public and still has the price factor in the future when it needs another jolt.

I'm not saying this to dismiss the PS3 but more to point out why this generation is so topsy turvy.  The 360 redesign has taken what was considered a flawed console and turned it into a desirable (so far perceived reliable) console with good value. 

The PS3 is still the power house it always was but the continuing cost cutting by Sony has brought it towards a more mass market pricepoint.  I would say it's lost some of the selling points it had now the 360 has wifi as standard, bigger harddrives and the fact Bluray players are so cheap.

Finally the Wii hasn't done anything to excite me in two years so I can see why keeping its momentum is an issue.  The third party titles aren't there to add enough variety in my opinion and there is only so many similar games the casuals will buy.

All in all I expect the PS3 to bundle games and tough it out till next year.  The 360 will now likely stay this price until next year also as I don't see Microsoft feeling the need to drop, agressive Kinect bundling is more likely.  The Wii needs a price drop and lots of limited editions to try and stimulate some growth. 

This is all just my opinion and you can completely agree or disagree as you wish.



Didn't the 360 have the 249.99 bundle with two games ? Anyways, it's still holding up just fine. Great numbers all around.



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Also, when are the shipments for all three companies going to be released ?



Who's the best Pac, Nas, and Big. Just leave it to that.

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Slaughterhouse Is The Sh*t  .... NOW ........ B_E_L_I_E_V_E

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Notorius.A.i.G said:

Also, when are the shipments for all three companies going to be released ?

Next week... 28 and 29.



just dance 2 and wii party are going to be in the top 10 for quite a while now



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HOw is it that 360 is winning every week, yet the vgchartz difference is shrinking? I'm really starting to doubt Vgchartz numbers.



only a 4,000 units dif b/t Sony and MS!

anyway good over all. sells should pick up for MS Kinect followed Nintendo's Mario bundle, and finaly Sony with GT5. 



kowenicki said:
Jadedx said:

HOw is it that 360 is winning every week, yet the vgchartz difference is shrinking? I'm really starting to doubt Vgchartz numbers.



large historic adjustment for canada, went back over a year.

A one time adjustment I understand, but 400k is a huge number, and even after that 400k adjustment the difference was 5.2 million, now its 5, next week it will probably be 4.9; not to mention that the adjustment was only for one console. This does not bode well for VGC reliability IMO.