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jarrod on 25 October 2010
tonio_13 said:

Come on jarrod stop acting like a child.

This is what you said previously :

"3DGH bombed hard, it sold only 13k total in Japan. Also, it's likely overtracked by VGC in America, it's numbers here likely would've placed it in the NPD top 20 for both May (64k via VGC) and June (77k via VGC), and it didn't place for either.

Valkyria's probably embarrassingly overtracked for the Americas. A (questionable) NPD placed it's US ltd around 150k last fall... VGC tends to do this with core niche games for some reason, it also happened with Demon's Souls. If Sega had been happy with Valkyria sales, they wouldn't have jumped to PSP for the sequel..."


 link : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=105471&page=20

Admit you were wrong and vgc was pretty spot on.

These numbers are shipments through August, not June (which is the period I specified).  And again shipped =/= sold, but slight overtracking isn't much of an issue (it's hugely off stuff like Valkyria that is, frankly).    

And yeah, I only said it bombed in Japan pretty clearly there... so I guess not wrong actually.  So please stop putting words in my mouth, kthnx. ;)



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Torillian on 25 October 2010

"Valkyria's probably embarrassingly overtracked for the Americas. A (questionable) NPD placed it's US ltd around 150k last fall... VGC tends to do this with core niche games for some reason, it also happened with Demon's Souls"

that's you saying that Demon's Souls is "embarrassingly overtracked" in NA.  Is that what you would call the differences we're seeing?

If we ever have shipping figures from Sega similar to these we'll know for sure for Valkyria Chronicles but until that point the argument is pointless since you're basing it off an entirely unsubstantiated source that we can't just trust at face value saying a figure from another tracking source that can have issues with tracking just like VGC does (not as often but it definitely is still possible since they are estimates)



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jarrod on 25 October 2010
Torillian said:

"Valkyria's probably embarrassingly overtracked for the Americas. A (questionable) NPD placed it's US ltd around 150k last fall... VGC tends to do this with core niche games for some reason, it also happened with Demon's Souls"

that's you saying that Demon's Souls is "embarrassingly overtracked" in NA.  Is that what you would call the differences we're seeing?

If we ever have shipping figures from Sega similar to these we'll know for sure for Valkyria Chronicles but until that point the argument is pointless since you're basing it off an entirely unsubstantiated source that we can't just trust at face value saying a figure from another tracking source that can have issues with tracking just like VGC does (not as often but it definitely is still possible since they are estimates)

Uh, no, this was way back pre-adjustment in Feb when VGC had DS selling like 150k (iirc) more than Atlus reported even shipping.  Try to keep things in context and stop twisting my words.

And I doubt we'll ever get any Valkyria figures from SEGA.  Had it moved nearly as much as VGC claims though, I seriously doubt they'd be sticking with PSP for the series...