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I do think that XBox Live is better than PSN...but its not $50-60 (a year) better.

My PS3 recently broke, and I was contemplating buying a 360 instead (because of Reach), but after playing online for the past 4 years with no fees, I just can't bring myself to pay for essentially another game just to play online.

I only buy 2-3 games a year, so having to pay for Live would cut down the number of games I buy a year possibly in half.  I know thats probably not the usual for people here on this site, so maybe a lot of people can't sympathize with that.

My 2 cents.



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@reidlogsog  i dont use that feature because i only care about gaming on my PS3. and no it is not that "horrific" but its not great and how do you know Kinect is so much better??? do you have one yet??? but thats not really the point I still dont see how it is worth 50 a year if the Kinect thing excites you and your willing to pay for that then by all means go ahead. I dont use webcam on my PS3 because I dont care about stuff like that so paying for that feature is a no-no for me. i only wanna play the occasional online game, nothing else dont wanna talk to some jacksass playing MW2 while im playing SSF4 i dont want netflix, facebook, twitter or any of that crap

@kimsk112 no it isnt but thats ok playing games online is still free thats all that matters IMO

@richardhutnik   you get to play all the demos on PSN also last I checked, can you tell me a game recently thats come out that you cant play a demo for??? im being serious, i dont download demos so i could be wrong



SpartenOmega117 said:
reidlosdog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
dahuman said:

You know, most people have computers that can do what live does better for free. consoles are for gaming, like hell if I'm going to watch that crap ass encoded Netflix for money or use Last.FM when Shoutcast is a better way to go (there is an app for that too, <3 smart phones, I use Shoutcast on the road as my primary music source.)

Those live features can be done in a simple web browser and there is nothing like dev IRC sessions or simply go straight to their forums. You don't even need a gaming machine to do all those and who the hell has internet and no computer? Nobody gets internet just for a console or 2 unless the person is obsolutely retarded.

Live has xchat which is really why it's better than PSN, it's definitely not worth the 50-60 bucks you pay a year, and on the flip side, no xchat on PSN but you don't have to pay a dime to play games online, which is actually a much better value than xchat for that amount of money.

I have consoles for games, games, GAMES! It's a no shit that the PS3 is a better value when it comes to pure gaming. Not to mention that the supreme VoIP app right now is Mumble, nothing on consoles can even touch that thing, no other VoIP in the world is better than Mumble for gaming atm, and that's free too.

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Has anyone mentioned the fact that you are going to be able to upload your photos and videos from your kinect to facebook and third party game developer sites?  Yoostar 2 is making it so your able to upload your videos, and Kinect adventures is allowing the pic app across the internet.

Also, I have a question for the PS3 guys, is your chat sound like a intercom or does it sound like a clear as day internet voice chat?  This November 2nd we are getting an upgraded codec, and I was just interested in what PS3 had.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/10/09/eight-little-things-you-may-not-have-known-about-the-xbox-360-fall-update.aspx

That also has a list of new little tid bits we will be getting soon.  And also, we are getting the "family pack" soon, which will give us 4 memberships for the price of 2.  I actually think that is why they bumped up the price, to make that ever so enticing.

We are paying $60 a year so we can have kinect take photos of us? Again you are getting away from my point. And that point is that does thta have to do with online multiplayer? Honestly out of all the people who have gold memberships how many of them would actually use facebook, twitter, etc.? Why not make it so all of the games have dedicated servers for xbox live? Now that new codec is actually something i am very excited about. That might actually be one of the good reasons paying $60 a year. I think it would be better if Micro$oft just charged maybe $20 a year just for online gaming and cross game chat. How many of you actually use acebook, twitter, and last.fm on xbox live?

I tried to use all of them but i thought they were all better on the computer which is sitting right next to my xbox.

What will be the difference between posting your video of you from Black Ops and and posting your video from Yoostar 2?  It seems you are voluntarily dismissing the Kinect online experience as not online.  Both Black Ops and Yoostar 2 are games.  I think this does count as online multiplayer.  You simply choose to not give it that much validation.

I personally have never, and probably will never, have the honor of enojoying server based gaming.  I truly do think that PS3 and the 360 are hugely conter productive.  The PS3 has all of these servers, but only # of PS3 owners actually use online.  The PS3 has a large portion of single player players.  Many of their games are amazing for single player gameplay.  On the other hand, the 360 has a 0 online play rate.  coupled with more Hardware sales and more online use, Microsoft should have servers for their exclusives.

But when looking at that different amount of online gameplay, it seems to really make a difference having cross-gaming chat and party capabilities.  If the online is free on the PS3, by all means, the PS3 should have a higher online play rate.  But it doesn't.

With everything we get this fall, and the ability to pay only $25 for a membership, I think that is a pretty big incentive for saying that XBL WILL be better.  As of right now, paying about 4.50 a month for online gaming and huge discounts (which add up to about $5 a month of you play popular arcade/mainstream video games.  If they half price everything (like they do) we easily save as much money as we spend, probably even more.

That in my book, coupled with everything else, is pretty big.

If you want to say you get free Sony games from sony PS1 exclusives, go right ahead.  But it's pretty easy for Sony to hand you something that is there's, and pretty hard for Microsoft to get discounts for major 3rd party games.



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@reidlogsog  i dont use that feature because i only care about gaming on my PS3. and no it is not that "horrific" but its not great and how do you know Kinect is so much better??? do you have one yet??? but thats not really the point I still dont see how it is worth 50 a year if the Kinect thing excites you and your willing to pay for that then by all means go ahead. I dont use webcam on my PS3 because I dont care about stuff like that so paying for that feature is a no-no for me. i only wanna play the occasional online game, nothing else dont wanna talk to some jacksass playing MW2 while im playing SSF4 i dont want netflix, facebook, twitter or any of that crap

@kimsk112 no it isnt but thats ok playing games online is still free thats all that matters IMO

@richardhutnik   you get to play all the demos on PSN also last I checked, can you tell me a game recently thats come out that you cant play a demo for??? im being serious, i dont download demos so i could be wrong

The Kinect uses a RGB camera, which is far better than a 240p web cam.  Do your research before you ask a simple question like that, the spechs for Kinect have been out for months now.

You are making the assumption that Kinect is not a online experience.  The web cam allows you to play with friends, play against friends, get better scores, and such and such.

So you "only wanna play the occasional online game," which makes it sound like you don't really use online that much.  Why would online gameplay even matter to you?  Just to play it a little?  I play online constantly, with all of my clan friends and the 360 is the only console that give that group cohesiveness.



V:  And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence.

@reidlosdog  where are you getting that not many PS3 users play online??? just curious because Uncharted 2 alone has thousand of players daily. and MW2 for that matter. No one is saying LIVE isnt better it is, just why does MS have to charge for playing a damn game online??? You honestly think they have to do this????



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JOKA_ said:

I do think that XBox Live is better than PSN...but its not $50-60 (a year) better.

My PS3 recently broke, and I was contemplating buying a 360 instead (because of Reach), but after playing online for the past 4 years with no fees, I just can't bring myself to pay for essentially another game just to play online.

I only buy 2-3 games a year, so having to pay for Live would cut down the number of games I buy a year possibly in half.  I know thats probably not the usual for people here on this site, so maybe a lot of people can't sympathize with that.

My 2 cents.


Is it worth $25 a year?  that's... $2.08 a month.



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@reidlosdog  i never assumed that Kinect was not part of online you keep throwing Kinect around like everyone cares about that stuff and your right I dont play online that much, maybe about 4 hours a week too much crap to do. But its exactly that reason why im not feeling LIVE why the hell would I pay money for something im not going to use that often anyway??? its like paying car insurance on a car I dont drive. YOu play alot of online so I guess 50 a year is alright for you. its not for me thats why I like PSN quick, ez to the point. Uncharted 2 is PS3 exclusive anyway and thats the game I put the most online in



oniyide said:

@reidlosdog  where are you getting that not many PS3 users play online??? just curious because Uncharted 2 alone has thousand of players daily. and MW2 for that matter. No one is saying LIVE isnt better it is, just why does MS have to charge for playing a damn game online??? You honestly think they have to do this????


I think they did it since the Xbox, and had to do it then, but then realized people will actually pay for this, so continued on.

So no, they don't HAVE to do it, but they know many people are willing to pay for it.

I'm not exactly sure where I got this statistic cause I'm trying to find it on Vgchartz, cause I thought I got it from there, but still looking.



V:  And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence.

@reidlosdog  so they do charge people because they know they will pay for it???? thats not very customer friendly, and one of the reasons why I dont support it personally.  I just wish they go back to at least letting people play a game online for free like everyone else does. Some people dont have the time to sit for hours on end and play whatever popular online game is on the market at least no for hours on end so the LIVE structure sorta leaves them out cold.