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@reidlosdog  so they do charge people because they know they will pay for it???? thats not very customer friendly, and one of the reasons why I dont support it personally.  I just wish they go back to at least letting people play a game online for free like everyone else does. Some people dont have the time to sit for hours on end and play whatever popular online game is on the market at least no for hours on end so the LIVE structure sorta leaves them out cold.