Citation needed.

You're arguing from a position that is not based in fact so much as it is your conceptions.

I don't particularly care that much. As there is no right answer. imo.

If someone killed my loved ones... I don't know what I'd do exactly. But, the point for me would be, that I lost them. Killing a the murderer wouldn't likely make me feel better. Because my loved one can't come back. And that's the part that matters. Unless we Mass Effect 2 him :P. And thus, for me, i'm fairly certain killing my for instance "Wife's" murderer wouldn't bring satisfaction to me. But I can't speak for others, so maybe, it should be up to the families victim(s), as I don't have a problem with that line of thought either. I just don't think I share it.

If they have the death penalty, people will be killed that are innocent due to flaws in the judicial system/people. But they still stay and rot in prison anyways. Imo, rotting in prison is a much worse sentence than death. Because for me sitting in a cell with no freedom is much worse than death. But, it's also really expensive on taxpayers. 

really there's flaws in either logic that I'm thinking of.
But that's why this issue hasn't been solved yet, atleast I think... >_>

I'm against it, for countless reasons.

It happens that innocent people are convicted, which means it is possible for innocent people to get executed for crimes they have not commited. They are murdered.

Now, some people are talking about revenge, eye for an eye. How will that work in this case? Shall we slay the judge? Kill the jury? They killed someone dear to me, and I want revenge!

I also think it's wrong to sentence people to death, no matter what crime they have commited. Murder is murder and no one has the right to decide who should or shouldn't die. Send them to rehab instead, do everything to change these people or atleast dig out the "source of evil" to use in preventive measures.

It may not be a popular opinion but I think that most criminals are themselves victims. People aren't born evil,  they are made evil; and you are sort of taking their lives because they themselves were abused and without getting the help they needed ultimately became wicked.

In a perfect world, where you can be 100% certain that an individual has committed a particular crime and you can execute them in a timely, painless and efficient manner I think the death penalty is a great thing ...

Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world and a certain number of individuals who will be innocent of the crime they were convicted of when they're executed; and even if that wasn't the case, with it (often) taking decades to get through all of the appeals the benefits of the death penalty over live in prison are minimal.

I'm for it. Those people obviously have no respect for other people's lives, so why shouldn't we treat them the same way?

I... don't really have an opinion.  Probably lean against, soley because it tends to be more expensive and it's applied unevenly.

Honestly though, life imprisoment is likely more cruel then the death penalty.

The only exception being really if they are christians or something, and there time inside allows them to achieve forgiveness and realize the error of their ways.

Rapitsts and Child molestor's he has a point.... a lot of experts actually do believe it's impossible to fix them.

Rapists because it is usually a matter of power, self esteem and control... or rather the usual lack of it from the person committing the crimes.  These feelings aren't going to increase when you have no power, no control and are considered bottom of the barrel in a prison full of well... criminals.

Pedophiles because it's a constant struggle, that once broken... you've pretty much given up on the social norms, and ocne again becomes a self esteem issue.  Honestly, if they haven't buried the guilt, they'll likely just kill themselves.  Also probably genetic.

or alternativly the reasons above, as there are two different reasons for Pedophiles.   You can treat Pedophiles... however it's not 100%, and the fact that they can just stop taking their medicine whenever they want "and eventually they will want to due to the effects..."  it's really no good.

The big problem we have with Pedophillia is we don't really have a good support network in place for people who don't want to rape children, know it's wrong, but have the urges to.  Once they get to the point of doing it...

It's all really just a matter of being ready to "go off" in either case, just because someone hasn't been caught again doesn't mean they won't or that they haven't.  (since not all crimes are reported.)  Also, I think they only go back like 2 years for repeat offenders.

Not so much murder's though unless they're serial killers.

Though even some serial killers can be "reformed".  For example Jeffery Dahmer was pretty convincing when he claimed he reformed... since he never tried to get out of his punishment.  Of course even then, Jeffery Dhamer only felt sorry because he now believed in god.  Previously thinking it didn't matter that he killed and ate people because we were all going to stop existing anyway and there was no meaning in life.

I mean, think about a lot of murders though.   Guy comes home after finding out he lost his job,  see's his wife who's been belittling him for months in bed with another guy.   Kills them both.

It's totally unacceptbale that he killed them, but what's there to reform?  What are the chances he's going to ever murder anyone again?  Almost zero right?

Because that sinks us down to the same level as them?

I am against the death penalty. In short, you can never be 100% sure that someone is guilty. Even in cases where the accused has confessed the crime. There are plenty of cases where people have confessed to thing that didn't do.

This in itself is reason enough to abolish the death penalty. A human life is sacred, you can not take one when you can not be sure that it is justified. It is a fact that having the death penalty leads to innocent people being killed by the state. That is unacceptable. It is not an argument that other people have killed people and should be killed for it, you can not have a system that risks killing innocent people.

There are many other arguments against the death penalty, they are all inferior to this point.

On the other hand, there are no good arguments for the death penalty. Protecting the general public is accomplished by life in prison (yes, people can escape prison, but then they can also escape from death row?). The feelings of the relatives is possibly the strongest argument for the death penalty, but it is also flawed. I do acknowledge that people who have horrible crimes committed against their loved ones will have a strong need for revenge in many cases, but fulfilling this wish should not be the goal of the justice system. Justice has to be cold and emotionless, if not it can not be fair. While I certainly can sympathize and even applaud people who take their revenge personally, I can't get behind the idea of administrating revenge institutionally.

I'm for it... but only kinda sorta.

I think it's okay if the death penalty-ee is allowed to choose their method of execution. No, I don't mean "Chair or needle", I mean any method. For example, if I ever get the death penalty (which won't happen as long as nobody checks my back yard!) I would like to be suffocated in a vat of ice cream.

Or better yet, suffocation by boobs. Female boobs. I'd at least go out with some dignity...