The death penalty.

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Khuutra said:

oldschoolfool said:

Seece said:

Khuutra said:

Even the ones who are in control of their actions aren't necessarily beyond reform, depending on the culture they live in. Certain countries have extremely low recidivism rates for criminals when they get out of prison, including violent criminals.

Yup, I know it's cliche, but a lot of reformed criminals claim to have found god and reformed. A lot of them come across as sincere so I'm inclined to believe them.

You seriously believe this. Murder,rape and child molester's are beyond reform. Most of the time if you let them out,they commit crimes again more times,then not. I live in America and there's really no such thing as reform for these low-life crimes. I know I would'nt want these people out on the street's.

Citation needed.

You're arguing from a position that is not based in fact so much as it is your conceptions.

Rapitsts and Child molestor's he has a point.... a lot of experts actually do believe it's impossible to fix them.

Rapists because it is usually a matter of power, self esteem and control... or rather the usual lack of it from the person committing the crimes.  These feelings aren't going to increase when you have no power, no control and are considered bottom of the barrel in a prison full of well... criminals.

Pedophiles because it's a constant struggle, that once broken... you've pretty much given up on the social norms, and ocne again becomes a self esteem issue.  Honestly, if they haven't buried the guilt, they'll likely just kill themselves.  Also probably genetic.

or alternativly the reasons above, as there are two different reasons for Pedophiles.   You can treat Pedophiles... however it's not 100%, and the fact that they can just stop taking their medicine whenever they want "and eventually they will want to due to the effects..."  it's really no good.

The big problem we have with Pedophillia is we don't really have a good support network in place for people who don't want to rape children, know it's wrong, but have the urges to.  Once they get to the point of doing it...

It's all really just a matter of being ready to "go off" in either case, just because someone hasn't been caught again doesn't mean they won't or that they haven't.  (since not all crimes are reported.)  Also, I think they only go back like 2 years for repeat offenders.

Not so much murder's though unless they're serial killers.

Though even some serial killers can be "reformed".  For example Jeffery Dahmer was pretty convincing when he claimed he reformed... since he never tried to get out of his punishment.  Of course even then, Jeffery Dhamer only felt sorry because he now believed in god.  Previously thinking it didn't matter that he killed and ate people because we were all going to stop existing anyway and there was no meaning in life.

 

I mean, think about a lot of murders though.   Guy comes home after finding out he lost his job,  see's his wife who's been belittling him for months in bed with another guy.   Kills them both.

It's totally unacceptbale that he killed them, but what's there to reform?  What are the chances he's going to ever murder anyone again?  Almost zero right?