What do you choose if you think that it's actually bang on average- not a success, but not gonna change the world?
Because that's what I think
Pachter : SONY's Playstation MOVE sold "WELL BELOW Expectations"! | |||
| Pachter who'd be dumb en... | 240 | 48.88% | |
| I agree with Pachter, I'm disappointed | 176 | 35.85% | |
| Meh At least Ps3 hardware sales were great! | 75 | 15.27% | |
| Total: | 491 | ||
What do you choose if you think that it's actually bang on average- not a success, but not gonna change the world?
Because that's what I think
| ioi said: It's not Pachter's personal opinion, what he is saying is that Move hardware sold below industry projections / expectations. |
pssssst I was trying to not make it sound so bad 
| Flippozzo said: In Italy Sony Italia shipped 100.000 PSMove, and 60.000 are selled to customers in the first month from launch. The source is the most important businnes newspaper of the country: "Il Sole 24 ore". |
Wow thats pretty good then
60K in Italy alone!!
| ioi said: Yeah but your poll is reading as though Pachter is personally saying that in his opinion Move didn't do well. He's not, he is saying that a bunch of firms made projections for their various clients (investors mainly) as to how well Move will perform and according to NPD it didn't do as well as expected. It is just a factual statement that he is making. Now, whether the various analysis firms had inflated expectations is another issue, but "who'd be dumb enough to swallow this crock" isn't really a fair thing to be aiming at Pachter. |
But I didn't know the industry made these expectations.
The article didn't say that either
It stated pachter saying
"We feel Move has underperformed"....by "We" I assumed he meant his company, Web bush Morgan. Under those conditions its fair to put it in the poll.
As far as I can remember we never got any indication of MOVE Sales predictions from investment firms prior to its launch.
| darthdevidem01 said: PS3's Move Sold 'Well Below Expectations,' says Pachter
Yesterday, Sony Computer Entertainment America (Darth's Edit -- should say Europe here not america) told us that the PlayStation Move "is performing extremely well at retail," although the company seemed reluctant to actually provide hard data to back up this statement. After all, if the product is selling so well, why not give us the sales information? In Europe, Sony revealed that Move sold around 1.5 million units. In North America, however, Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter believes that Move really did not fare as well as Sony would have liked. Despite the suspected slow start, Pachter still thinks that Move, and Microsoft's Kinect, will have a notable impact on industry sales this holiday season. "Even though we believe Move sold well below expectations in its first month, we expect it, along with the Kinect (launching November 4), to drive hardware sales at holiday," he said. The launch of PlayStation Move did not seem to noticeably lift the fortunes of Sony's PS3 either; Pachter revealed that the PS3 sold 312,000 units in September, which represents a 37% decline year-over-year. http://www.industrygamers.com/news/ps3s-move-sold-well-below-expectations-says-pachter/ _________________________________________ Thats Pachter's opinion!!! Hey at least he STILL expects it to DRIVE PS3 sales in the holiday! |
I wish you would put an option in your polls that reflected quite a lot of people on here's view points. Mine is "I expected it to sell this poorly". It almost seems like you never have an honest opinion option, hm...
Lazthelost said:
I wish you would put an option in your polls that reflected quite a lot of people on here's view points. Mine is "I expected it to sell this poorly". It almost seems like you never have an honest opinion option, hm... |
But it hasn't sold poorly, so why would I put that option in?
ioi said:
You wouldn't, these things aren't made public. Every major product will have industry projections - this is how companies know what to forecast for financial earnings and so on. |
So are you allowed to tell us what these projections were? Or are you not allowed to give out data these firms predicted due to copyright reasons?
| Euphoria14 said: Is this estimate based on the YoY decrease? Last year in September didn't we have PS3 Slim launch as well as the $100 price cut?
Anyways, just like any Move prediction, nothing is known until SONY says something. |
Pachter has access to the full data.
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Darth to darth? You should remove your edit in the original post. The quote DID come from SCEA. The link in the article you copied references Patrick Seybold, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications at SCEA.
As for Pachter's comments, I'll yield to ioi as he knows better than any of us. Didn't vote in the poll, though, because I didn't feel any of the choices reflected my personal thoughts.
