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Wii 'could be in trouble' post-Christmas - Iwata

Wii will continue to be s... 69 17.97%
 
It's true Wii has peaked 193 50.26%
 
Let's hope not 25 6.51%
 
Wii will be on the market for years to come 33 8.59%
 
We need Super Wii 64 16.67%
 
Total:384

LOL...this is funny cuz no matter what happens none of the HD systems will ever catch up to the Wii!!!  By the time they even come close it's already time to release a new system.  Mark my words 2012 or bust all console makers will release or be close to releasing a new system.   Maybe 2014, for Sony as the PS3 has left a nasty gash on them that will take some IF EVER to heal!!! (PS3 is the BIGGEST FAILURE THIS GENERATION the real winners are Nintendo and Microsoft)

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oni-link said:

LOL...this is funny cuz no matter what happens none of the HD systems will ever catch up to the Wii!!!  By the time they even come close it's already time to release a new system.  Mark my words 2012 or bust all console makers will release or be close to releasing a new system.   Maybe 2014, for Sony as the PS3 has left a nasty gash on them that will take some IF EVER to heal!!! (PS3 is the BIGGEST FAILURE THIS GENERATION the real winners are Nintendo and Microsoft)

 


Microsoft lost money this gen. I'm pretty sure, after 2 unprofitable gens their at the point where they just give up. Nintendo will release sometime 2012 Sony will get reaaaaly scared and piece together a last minute next gen console about a year later. Naturally third parties will just make everything multiplat wii 2/PS3/PS4/Xbox 360 games (Their never gunna max out the HD consoles hardware so they can) and wii 2 will get some awesome sales because

A) It's newer. People like getting the newer thing.
B) It will be more powerful (people are stupid. At least a few will follow the specs regardless of any actuall benefits. That'll change when PS4 comes out but, with their headstart Wii 2 should easily stay on top)
C) First party nintendo titles have, on their own, made the fastest selling console of all time. With third parties Sony/Microsoft can't stand up to them. The people who don't like Nintendo games will just buy it cause everyone around them has one. It'll snowball.



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Cheebee said:
axt113 said:
theRepublic said:
axt113 said:

Galaxy 2 sold less than Galaxy one, was not a system seller and sold far, far less than NSMB, that's a flop

Really?  So Nintendo should do nothing to maintain diversity in its library or cater to massive niches within its fanbase?  Sounds like a great business strategy you got there.


Massive Niches, lol, what massive niche was activated by Galaxy?  NSMB Wii got that Niche and more.

 

Face i, games like Galaxy, Other M and Skyward are wastes , so yeah, my business strategy would have not only resulted in more sales, but would have kept momentum going

You're hilarious. XD


No I'm right, just look at the sales, and hardware pushing ability of the games



theRepublic said:
axt113 said:
theRepublic said:
axt113 said:

Galaxy 2 sold less than Galaxy one, was not a system seller and sold far, far less than NSMB, that's a flop

Really?  So Nintendo should do nothing to maintain diversity in its library or cater to massive niches within its fanbase?  Sounds like a great business strategy you got there.


Massive Niches, lol, what massive niche was activated by Galaxy?  NSMB Wii got that Niche and more.

 

Face i, games like Galaxy, Other M and Skyward are wastes , so yeah, my business strategy would have not only resulted in more sales, but would have kept momentum going

Four million is huge for Galaxy 2.  It is only 1.5 million behind Galaxy when launch aligned.

From the sounds of things, you strategy would have Nintendo fans leaving in droves.  Not every game can have the same goal or appeal.  Some games are made to diversify the library, or cater to certain groups within the fanbase.  Not every game can be Wii Sports, and if it was, you would bore the expanded audience and chase away more traditional gamers.


no it wouldn;t because Nintendo fans would be buying Mario and Zelda and Metroid, just in better selling 2D versions

There's a difference between diversifying and wasting time and resources,

 

See what you apologists don't get is there is no benefit to Nintendo making these games,  people will still buy for 2D Mario, Mario Kart and other big sellers Nintendo makes, and Nintendo can spend its money on games that actually push hardware,  there is no downside

 

3D games have been tried over and over, and they've proven to be dogs, and there comes a point where you have to put the dogs to sleep



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A game doesn't sell 9 or even 4 million copies without moving some hardware, and to neglect that area of the market completely would be stupid for Nintendo. I mean what would have sold more hardware the 2 Galaxy games or another Wii sports game? The games like the "Wii" titled games still sell well to this day and are still usually  in the top 50 sellers each week and are still selling consoles. Replacing them with more games of the same type doesn't seem like such a good idea especially in the longer term when they can launch titles like that to a greater effect, once sales really start to drop like now, Nintendo are releasing a new party game in the form of Wii party. Pushing games into as many markets as possible is almost always better than just serving the same section of the market with the same types of games over and over again. What Nintendo learnt this generation IMO is that branching out into new areas can pay off big time. And that means pushing out new games of new types on too the Wii. That is not to say that following up wildly successful ideas and franchises is a bad idea, getting old customers to buy new iterations is never a bad thing. Which is why games like Galaxy, other 3D mario games,  Zelda, Super smash bros, Wii party and even other M are worth putting out, as it brings in people that may not have gotten the Wii, and especially wouldn't for another Wii music title.

To say Nintendo is stupid to publish games as successful as galaxy and to say Nintendo should just focus on one type of game and replace current good sellers with new titles rather than branch out is IMO kinda dumb.


Actually no, as you can see in the sales charts, the releases of these games does not produce any sizable bump in hardware slaes, unlike a game like NSMB, so they don;t oush hardware.

 

People are still buying Wii for other games, whether or not these 3D games come out, so they are a waste of time and resources,

 

replacing these games with actual system sellers and actual games that people want, is not dumb and will actually result in higher sales, profits and momentum for Nintendo

 

 Let the third parties make those games that don't push hardware, and sell only a few million



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Even if Wii has already peaked, it's by no means in troubles. With well timed SW releases and one price cut it can resist till Autumn 2012, then, after Wii2 release, another price cut, down to $99, some new games releases, a lot of budget edition releases and maybe also a $149 bundle with Balance Board that would make it THE women's 2nd favourite toy, should be able to keep it alive and kicking as entry level model for many years, just like it's happening to Sony PS2.



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axt113 said:
Cheebee said:
axt113 said:
theRepublic said:
axt113 said:

Galaxy 2 sold less than Galaxy one, was not a system seller and sold far, far less than NSMB, that's a flop

Really?  So Nintendo should do nothing to maintain diversity in its library or cater to massive niches within its fanbase?  Sounds like a great business strategy you got there.


Massive Niches, lol, what massive niche was activated by Galaxy?  NSMB Wii got that Niche and more.

 

Face i, games like Galaxy, Other M and Skyward are wastes , so yeah, my business strategy would have not only resulted in more sales, but would have kept momentum going

You're hilarious. XD


No I'm right, just look at the sales, and hardware pushing ability of the games

No, you're wrong, and a lot of other people in this thread have already tried to sensibly explain to you why that is. I'm not going to bother anymore if you just don't want to see logic. If you honestly do not understand a console needs as broad a library as possible, instead of limiting itself to a specific type of game you're beyond help.

In your world, 360 would have just Halo and GTA, and PS3 just GTA and, well, GT5, maybe. Nothing else, 'cos that wouldn't sell consoles.

Once again, you're hilarious. XD



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Cheebee said:
axt113 said:
Cheebee said:
axt113 said:
theRepublic said:
axt113 said:

Galaxy 2 sold less than Galaxy one, was not a system seller and sold far, far less than NSMB, that's a flop

Really?  So Nintendo should do nothing to maintain diversity in its library or cater to massive niches within its fanbase?  Sounds like a great business strategy you got there.


Massive Niches, lol, what massive niche was activated by Galaxy?  NSMB Wii got that Niche and more.

 

Face i, games like Galaxy, Other M and Skyward are wastes , so yeah, my business strategy would have not only resulted in more sales, but would have kept momentum going

You're hilarious. XD


No I'm right, just look at the sales, and hardware pushing ability of the games

No, you're wrong, and a lot of other people in this thread have already tried to sensibly explain to you why that is. I'm not going to bother anymore if you just don't want to see logic.


His conclusion is wrong, but not his reasoning. The game don't sell as well as a lot of the other games, and are not system sellers.

Doesn't mean Nintendo wasted making them, just that they shouldn't have used them as big guns.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Cheebee said:
axt113 said:
Cheebee said:
axt113 said:
theRepublic said:
axt113 said:

Galaxy 2 sold less than Galaxy one, was not a system seller and sold far, far less than NSMB, that's a flop

Really?  So Nintendo should do nothing to maintain diversity in its library or cater to massive niches within its fanbase?  Sounds like a great business strategy you got there.


Massive Niches, lol, what massive niche was activated by Galaxy?  NSMB Wii got that Niche and more.

 

Face i, games like Galaxy, Other M and Skyward are wastes , so yeah, my business strategy would have not only resulted in more sales, but would have kept momentum going

You're hilarious. XD


No I'm right, just look at the sales, and hardware pushing ability of the games

No, you're wrong, and a lot of other people in this thread have already tried to sensibly explain to you why that is. I'm not going to bother anymore if you just don't want to see logic.


His conclusion is wrong, but not his reasoning. The game don't sell as well as a lot of the other games, and are not system sellers.

Doesn't mean Nintendo wasted making them, just that they shouldn't have used them as big guns.

Yes, I get that. But he literally called such titles (including Galaxy, which happens to be a near-10-million-seller, how many games can claim that?) 'wastes'.

Also, he's claiming SS is a waste, a title we know hardly anything about and which may not release for another year. How awkward is that, especially considering TP, its predecessor, is one of the best-selling Zelda games ever, and was without a shred of doubt a system seller when Wii launched. And you and I both know there are a LOT of people clamouring for a new console Zelda, let alone a 1:1 motion controlled one.

So, in conclusion, those things do indeed make him wrong. And very much so.



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