another week ps3>> wii, wii party hits next week it should be even ground again i think  but i did see lots of wii party games on shelves, so we shall see

What was PES debut for the last couple of years ?

oh an yeah about sports champion sales i expect them to pick up at Xmas again hopefully, stop comparing it to wsr, we all know no one sells stuff like ninty

He's not sensitive, He's mad because PS3 or PSmove isn't doing BAD like he wants them to.

While 360 HW will probably catch PS3 In EMEAA before GT5 launches, the gaps in Rhonin's charts for total yearly HW and SW may take a while.  If they close at all.

That looks a bit better for DR2.  The Am. nos help but it still seems like there were few walk-ins compared to pre-orders again.  I'll adjust my expectations.

This week was one of the few I saw as potential PS3 HW wins this year.  If the GT5 HW boost doesn't extend before and after launch the top spot could be Wii60 for the rest of the year.  The Kinect boost will start slower but last longer and the 360 Black isn't done yet.  I hope Wii picks up soon.  Not sure why exactly.  It's not like it's the underdog here.  The brave little console.

Wii party is the kidn of game that will have legs and will defintlys sell a lot from now on, so we could see Wii > PS3 for a few weeks till GT5.

You mean they could actually be doing worse ?? The successor to the playstation 2 is a distant third and has lost sony blllions of $$ and the sony motion-control solution has flopped  doing pathetic numbers both hardware and software and having virtually zero effect on ps3 HW sales.

I've noticed it as well.Please change ur behaviour johnglen,and everything will be alright.Don't let a bann change your behaviour :)

1. actually move did boost hw sales, before move ps3 was at 120k, so please get your facts right

2. move sales are at around 500k by now by my calculations, that is not bad considering hardly anyone knows about it (not advertised as much as kinect or wii, not to mention preconceptions about it can be a barrier until they play it, then they know move is different to wiimote)

3. we all expect more move sales when more hardcore games ht, expect a boost for time crisis, killzone 3, sorcery, socom 4, infamous 2, dead space 2

4. pspgo does worse sales wise if i'm not mistaken and sony have not dropped it, now with every move sale sony actually make profit, as long as it sells i cannot see them dropping it, keep on wishing, but it won't happen

5. eyetoy started off with a worse debut and went on to sell 10m!!!

NISA and Gust are pretty close as far as companies go so I would assume NISA will bring over Totori after they're finished with Ar Tonelico 3.

I've read a bit about Totori, and as far as I remember it didn't change much from Rorona other than adding some more functionality in managing ingredients, but I could easily be forgetting some stuff.

edit: actually nvm I found the impression I was thinking of and I was wrong:

"Liked:
- The tracks composed by Nakagawa. Some great battle themes in particular, while the rest was typical Atelier. The highs on this soundtrack were definitely higher than Rorona's soundtrack.
- So much to see, so much to do. Just as you think you've seen everything the world has to offer, a whole new set of areas opens up - and unlike Rorona this game covers 5 years of Totori's life, and there's enough content to show for it.
- Teleport items and various other conveniences. You can move to any area in a town by pressing start and selecting the area, which reduces tedium massively, and later in the game you get items to teleport to either Atelier, reduce harvesting time, and speed up movement on the world map respectively.
- Gust definitely listened to the criticisms from Rorona, as well. The annoying inability to transfer multiple items to storage at once in particular was fixed.
- Improved battle system. Rorona's battle system was functional but average, whereas Totori's is a fair bit more enjoyable. It's not exactly amazing, and you won't find yourself looking forward to normal battles too much, but boss battles can be pretty enjoyable.
- The new artstyle is fantastic. Rorona was a decent start for Gust on the PS3, and Ar Tonelico 3 built on that, but with Totori they're really getting good at this. I think this is honestly the first Gust game I've played where I can say I loved the graphics.
- Characters were likeable, if nothing original. I don't think anyone actually goes into a game like this expecting deep, original characters, but those who liked Rorona's cast and got some laughs out of its dialogue will find themselves right at home here. Those who didn't... well, there won't be anything to change your mind here. Me, I was laughing most of the way through. You will miss Astrid at the beginning though.
- Fair bit of replayability. Tons of optional scenes to see, multiple endings to get, a whole extra multifloor dungeon with strong enemies to fight, and a few extra optional bosses only available at the top adventurer rank (which is quite easy not to reach, but isn't needed for the ending). Add in New Game where you can carry over your money and current equips, and it's worth playing a second time, at least.

Didn't like:
- Managing the Chimus is a pain in the ass - while Homu could just be sent off to help you without a huge amount of worry, Chimus need pies. You can have up to 5 of them, and each one will eat their way through pies like lightning when you give them work to do. So you can either buy pies or make them - the former is expensive, the latter is annoying because the last thing you want to do is be making pies all the time. So if you're anything like me, you just won't use the Chimu system unless there's something you really need.
- Most of Yanagawa's tracks. I can somewhat see what Gust see in this guy, as when he does good tracks they're very much Gust's style, but between this and the Ar Tonelico 3 soundtrack he seems to have a much higher ratio of misses than hits. I miss the days of Tsuchiya, Nakagawa and Achiwa all contributing to Gust soundtracks... or at least Nakagawa and Achiwa.
- Weird inconsistencies with the storage and basket. You can sell items from your storage at shops, and make weapons out of ores in it... yet you can't hand over items from it for plot events, you have to have those on hand. Also, items by default go straight into your storage, more than once I found myself out in the wilderness about to use a healing salve I made earlier... only to find I forgot to take it out of storage. There's an item you can get later that lets you use items from your storage out in the field, but it's very easy to go through the game without getting it at all. Would've been nice for the game to ask whether you wanted to send a usable item to the basket or storage after making it, though.

In short, it's better than Rorona in just about every way, though not quite better enough that I imagine it'll win over anyone who didn't like Rorona. If you did though, then you're going to love this."