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SaviorX on 08 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Nintendogamer said:
darthdevidem01 said:

 

9
FIFA 11 (PS2)
EA Sports
1 47,080 47,080





12
FIFA 11 (Wii)
EA Sports
1 40,329 40,329


Who is that guy?

Carl2291


This seriously made me laugh my ass off XD



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

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Demotruk on 08 October 2010
Yakuzaice said:
Demotruk said:

Order of Magnitude: "a number assigned to the ratio of two quantities; two quantities are of the same order of magnitude if one is less than 10 times as large as the other; the number of magnitudes that the quantities differ is specified to within a power of 10"


I was the one who made the comment, I was talking about lifetime.

If we are going to be so literal as to use a factor of 10 as an order of magnitude for video game sales, then the Wii version still wasn't on the same order of magnitude back when Fifa 08 was relevant because it didn't hit one million till this year.

You were answering someone who asked why Fifa 11 Wii wasn't selling like the HD systems.  That was obviously about the first week because that is the only data we have.  My point was Fifa Wii never sold like the HD systems, even three years ago.


I deliberately used the phrase "order of magnitude" in place of "nearly as much" or "on a similar level" to avoid arguments like this. The use of the phrase is correct, if the Wii version was selling less than 1/10 of the other versions, as it does today, it would not be selling on the same order of magnitude. It did back then. My mistake was assuming that people understood the phrase.



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It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

postofficebuddy on 08 October 2010
Yakuzaice said:
thx1139 said:

Is the Wii sold without any bundled games in any country in EMEAA?

Korea didn't get Wii Sports, just like Japan.  I'm not sure what the situation is now with the Sports/Resort bundles.  Japan didn't get those either, so it might be the same.


Japan, Asia, and I believe Africa and the Middle East don't have anything bundled with the Wii.



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Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 on 08 October 2010
hallowedbeeddie said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
hallowedbeeddie said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Nintendogamer said:

So Wii and DS went up! and Wii sports resort > Sports Champions. I think we will see Wii aprty in the charts next week.


Doesn't Wii Sports Resort come with the Wii though? 

wii sports resort sold over 15 million before it was even bundled with wii. if you look at it that way champions is not doing so well. anyways champions is still doing ok and will probably sell millions too

Yeah I know but it's still unfair to compare them though because Resort is a sequel to a game that nearly every Wii owner owns . SC is a new ip. Maybe when Move releases in Japan you can compare it's sales to Wii Sports 1. It'd probably still get raped anyway. XD

And for everyone asking where PES 2011 is, it just got released today in the UK.  


Yes, japan will be a better place to compare them. Also, SC may be a new ip for ps3, but it is very similar to WSR so it is not touching unfamiliared ground. if it is not selling like crazy maybe it´s because it´s not showing people anything they haven´t seen many times already (I know the motion may be better but I´m talking about the genre)


Yup you could be right.



Yakuzaice on 08 October 2010
Demotruk said:
Yakuzaice said:
Demotruk said:

Order of Magnitude: "a number assigned to the ratio of two quantities; two quantities are of the same order of magnitude if one is less than 10 times as large as the other; the number of magnitudes that the quantities differ is specified to within a power of 10"


I was the one who made the comment, I was talking about lifetime.

If we are going to be so literal as to use a factor of 10 as an order of magnitude for video game sales, then the Wii version still wasn't on the same order of magnitude back when Fifa 08 was relevant because it didn't hit one million till this year.

You were answering someone who asked why Fifa 11 Wii wasn't selling like the HD systems.  That was obviously about the first week because that is the only data we have.  My point was Fifa Wii never sold like the HD systems, even three years ago.


I deliberately used the phrase "order of magnitude" in place of "nearly as much" or "on a similar level" to avoid arguments like this. The use of the phrase is correct, if the Wii version was selling less than 1/10 of the other versions, as it does today, it would not be selling on the same order of magnitude. It did back then. My mistake was assuming that people understood the phrase.

It's a phrase that has it's place, and describing video game sales aren't it.  It is similar to decimated in that people rarely mean it literally in everyday conversation.

Anyways, arguing semantics is pointless.  It doesn't matter that Fifa Wii was able to limp to the same order of magnitude that the HD versions sold.  The relevance in the video game market is pretty much nil.  It might do it this year as well, but it wouldn't change the fact that it still isn't "seliing on the wii like it is on the HD systems" as the person who kickstarted this said.



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Demotruk on 08 October 2010
Yakuzaice said:
Demotruk said:
Yakuzaice said:
Demotruk said:

Order of Magnitude: "a number assigned to the ratio of two quantities; two quantities are of the same order of magnitude if one is less than 10 times as large as the other; the number of magnitudes that the quantities differ is specified to within a power of 10"


I was the one who made the comment, I was talking about lifetime.

If we are going to be so literal as to use a factor of 10 as an order of magnitude for video game sales, then the Wii version still wasn't on the same order of magnitude back when Fifa 08 was relevant because it didn't hit one million till this year.

You were answering someone who asked why Fifa 11 Wii wasn't selling like the HD systems.  That was obviously about the first week because that is the only data we have.  My point was Fifa Wii never sold like the HD systems, even three years ago.


I deliberately used the phrase "order of magnitude" in place of "nearly as much" or "on a similar level" to avoid arguments like this. The use of the phrase is correct, if the Wii version was selling less than 1/10 of the other versions, as it does today, it would not be selling on the same order of magnitude. It did back then. My mistake was assuming that people understood the phrase.

It's a phrase that has it's place, and describing video game sales aren't it.  It is similar to decimated in that people rarely mean it literally in everyday conversation.

Anyways, arguing semantics is pointless.  It doesn't matter that Fifa Wii was able to limp to the same order of magnitude that the HD versions sold.  The relevance in the video game market is pretty much nil.  It might do it this year as well, but it wouldn't change the fact that it still isn't "seliing on the wii like it is on the HD systems" as the person who kickstarted this said.

1) No video game that sells a million is irrelevant unless it had exorbitant costs.

2) The person I was responding to was asking a question, and I deliberately used the phrase "on the same order of magnitude" precisely because I knew if I claimed it was selling "nearly as much" or even "on a similar level" would get someone arguing about it.



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www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

Yakuzaice on 08 October 2010
Demotruk said:

1) No video game that sells a million is irrelevant unless it had exorbitant costs.

2) The person I was responding to was asking a question, and I deliberately used the phrase "on the same order of magnitude" precisely because I knew if I claimed it was selling "nearly as much" or even "on a similar level" would get someone arguing about it.

I didn't say a million was irrelevant, I said that the distinction between 1,000,000 and 999,999 is irrelevant.  Every Nintendo home console has sold at the same order of magnitude, but is that relevant information?

The second point pretty much ties into my answer of the first.  Just because your argument is technically correct doesn't mean it supports the point you're trying to make.



Demotruk on 08 October 2010
Yakuzaice said:
Demotruk said:

1) No video game that sells a million is irrelevant unless it had exorbitant costs.

2) The person I was responding to was asking a question, and I deliberately used the phrase "on the same order of magnitude" precisely because I knew if I claimed it was selling "nearly as much" or even "on a similar level" would get someone arguing about it.

I didn't say a million was irrelevant, I said that the distinction between 1,000,000 and 999,999 is irrelevant.  Every Nintendo home console has sold at the same order of magnitude, but is that relevant information?

The second point pretty much ties into my answer of the first.  Just because your argument is technically correct doesn't mean it supports the point you're trying to make.

You're still misunderstanding what order of magnitude means, something is on the same order of magnitude as something else if it is within 1/10 and 10* that number. 

My second point is me trying to explain that the point I was trying to make was not what you interpreted it to be. I was deliberately *not* saying the Wii version was selling as much as the HD versions and used a wider phrase because I didn't think anybody would feel the need to argue with. It is like saying that two teams are "in the same league", it's not saying that they are as good as the other but that they are within a certain range of them, because people understand that a team can be in the same league as another without being nearly as good.



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

Bail on 08 October 2010

I'm sorry but, aren't those PS3 numbers kinda low ?

 

I mean, Sony just launched the 160 Go PS3 alongside the FIFA 320Go PS3 bundle the PES 320Go PS3 bundle, and the console went down 13% from last week ?

 

BTW, where's PES ?



HALOOOOOOOO on 08 October 2010

I think the software race between PS3/360 is going to be the one to watch in the EMEAA this holiday. Not that anyone cares...