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'Let me make Dreamcast 2' - Sonic creator!

Hell yeah we need Dreamcast 2! 65 48.87%
 
Hell no! Sega should only be making software 19 14.29%
 
I have no opinion on the matter 14 10.53%
 
They could but it wouldn't be successful 26 19.55%
 
I can only Dream it will happen 9 6.77%
 
Total:133
mjk45 said:
KungKras said:
mjk45 said:

 You would have to be prepared to drop billions of dollars to get a console to market and expect  not to see any profit at least to the next gen  and thats if you have been succesful in making head way, Today we have 3 makers with the Wii having enough of a differential from theHD twins to make it work even then Sony has lost billions this gen and  got to  a stage that some people reported that the Playstation including  the PS1 and PS2 's profits had been eaten up by the PS3 and there best case scenario( IE ten years or more of ps3 on the market and all remaining years profitable) is for the PS3 having enough turaround for the PS1/2 &3 combined to be back in the black in some small way and thats not something to smile about.

So i think three is tight and next gen the console makers will factor this three way battle into there strategy far more than last gen. Since there last foray into the market there Ips don't resonate like they once did and there competion software wise  have grown plus  i don't really think 3rd partys are going to split development resources even further .

Console manufacturers never used to drop millions of dollars to make new hardware. Actually, Sega is the company that always had the easiest time making new hardware since they based their consoles off of their arcade boards.

Yes they did drop large amounts  not to the extent of today but it still cost a lot  in terms of R&D and associated costs and gets more expensive each year, the arcade was a great stream of revenue and  using a custom chip set based on the home console meant you could port the games over cheaply both ways  and has to whether they based the home console off the arcade board or the other way around I'm not to sure on but either way it  gave them another revenue stream one that Sony also benefited from  as well with Namco using custom PlayStation chip sets but all said and done that was an aspect of the industry thats pretty much done and dusted ,Sega today would have to borrow heavily to re enter the business.

Well, of course Sega would have to spend some money on R&D, but not billions like Sony did on the PS3. (I notice that I said millions in my post when I intended to say billions, fixed now)
I still think, that since Sega still makes their arcade boards, they wouldn't have to spend ridiculous amounts of recources on R&D. But yea, it would still be a huge investment when compared to the capital they have.



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zgamer5 said:

him>bobby kotick

Last time I checked, everybody > Bobby Kotick.



Do we really need 4 consoles? No. Do we need good Sonic games? Yes, but on the current consoles.

Dreamcast 2 would have some good exclusives tho.



KungKras said:
Darc Requiem said:

Yuji Naka is not the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm so sick of him perpetuating that fraud.


His programming made the original game possible, or at least made it what it is.


True but he didn't create the game. There were three people behind the character. Naoto Oshima, Hirokazu Yasuhara, and Yuji Naka. Naka was the programmer. Oshima was the artist. Yasuhara was the gameplay and level designer. If any one person were to be credited as the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog it would be Hirokazu Yasuhara since Yasuhara actually designed the levels and gameplay. Naka just programmed what Yasuhara created. Even with that said Naota Oshima designed Sonic the Hedgehogs character.

That's why when Yuji Naka took over the Sonic games by himself the quality began to suffer. He wasn't the creative force behind Sonic's success. Yasuhara was the most important factor behind the success of the Sonic titles. Yuji Naka is the Japanese version of John Romero. An arrogant prick that was in the right place at the right time.



Darc Requiem said:
KungKras said:
Darc Requiem said:

Yuji Naka is not the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm so sick of him perpetuating that fraud.


His programming made the original game possible, or at least made it what it is.


True but he didn't create the game. There were three people behind the character. Naoto Oshima, Hirokazu Yasuhara, and Yuji Naka. Naka was the programmer. Oshima was the artist. Yasuhara was the gameplay and level designer. If any one person were to be credited as the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog it would be Hirokazu Yasuhara since Yasuhara actually designed the levels and gameplay. Naka just programmed what Yasuhara created. Even with that said Naota Oshima designed Sonic the Hedgehogs character.

That's why when Yuji Naka took over the Sonic games by himself the quality began to suffer. He wasn't the creative force behind Sonic's success. Yasuhara was the most important factor behind the success of the Sonic titles. Yuji Naka is the Japanese version of John Romero. An arrogant prick that was in the right place at the right time.

That I completely agree with.



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Darc Requiem said:
KungKras said:
Darc Requiem said:

Yuji Naka is not the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm so sick of him perpetuating that fraud.


His programming made the original game possible, or at least made it what it is.


True but he didn't create the game. There were three people behind the character. Naoto Oshima, Hirokazu Yasuhara, and Yuji Naka. Naka was the programmer. Oshima was the artist. Yasuhara was the gameplay and level designer. If any one person were to be credited as the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog it would be Hirokazu Yasuhara since Yasuhara actually designed the levels and gameplay. Naka just programmed what Yasuhara created. Even with that said Naota Oshima designed Sonic the Hedgehogs character.

That's why when Yuji Naka took over the Sonic games by himself the quality began to suffer. He wasn't the creative force behind Sonic's success. Yasuhara was the most important factor behind the success of the Sonic titles. Yuji Naka is the Japanese version of John Romero. An arrogant prick that was in the right place at the right time.

Wow, that's not completely fair.  There are a ton of assumptions in here.  We have no idea why Naka ended up being the public face of Sonic.  It might be because the others didn't WANT to be that face or maybe all involved felt his contribution was the most significant.  Regardless, Naka went on to find some successes as a producer (NiGHTS into dreams, Sonic Adventure, Phantasy Star Online) as did Yasuhara as a game designer (Uncharted: Drakes Fortune).  Why turn this into some talk show shhh???



Darth Tigris said:
Darc Requiem said:
KungKras said:
Darc Requiem said:

Yuji Naka is not the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm so sick of him perpetuating that fraud.


His programming made the original game possible, or at least made it what it is.


True but he didn't create the game. There were three people behind the character. Naoto Oshima, Hirokazu Yasuhara, and Yuji Naka. Naka was the programmer. Oshima was the artist. Yasuhara was the gameplay and level designer. If any one person were to be credited as the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog it would be Hirokazu Yasuhara since Yasuhara actually designed the levels and gameplay. Naka just programmed what Yasuhara created. Even with that said Naota Oshima designed Sonic the Hedgehogs character.

That's why when Yuji Naka took over the Sonic games by himself the quality began to suffer. He wasn't the creative force behind Sonic's success. Yasuhara was the most important factor behind the success of the Sonic titles. Yuji Naka is the Japanese version of John Romero. An arrogant prick that was in the right place at the right time.

Wow, that's not completely fair.  There are a ton of assumptions in here.  We have no idea why Naka ended up being the public face of Sonic.  It might be because the others didn't WANT to be that face or maybe all involved felt his contribution was the most significant.  Regardless, Naka went on to find some successes as a producer (NiGHTS into dreams, Sonic Adventure, Phantasy Star Online) as did Yasuhara as a game designer (Uncharted: Drakes Fortune).  Why turn this into some talk show shhh???

I agree with that too.

I'm confused :S



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I stand by my assessment of Yuji Naka. The guy is a tool.