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rf40928 on 02 October 2010
rf40928 said:
Silver-Tiger said:
rf40928 said:
Rafux said:

Its doing just fine for being the most expensive console, nobody knows for sure the effect GT5 is going to have and next year is full of exclusives. With no offense to the 360 but it seems their biggest game next year will be Gears of wars 3 but still Kinect is gonna sell truckloads.

Sony fans have a strong argument that the PS3 is a solid product, and it is.. but  from a business perspective, Sony can't take another last place console.  They really are just now barely making money from the PS3 which hardly offsets whats been lost the since launch 4 years ago.

If you want to compare Apples to Apples we neeed to stop comparing the sales of the PS3 to the Wii or Xbox 360.. This Gen probably has about 3 more yrs till you start seeing Next Gen consoles ( which gives you nearly a ten year cycle ) .. 

If you want to compare Apples to Apples stop comparing the sales of the PS3 to the Wii or Xbox 360..

Xbox 1 sold  24.6 million lifetime - Xbox 360 has sold 45.3 million so far ( an INCREASE of 98% more owners then the previous console userbase )   ---->  PS2 sold 137.1 million Lifetime - PS3 has sold 37.8 Million so far ( A DECREASE of 73% less owners then the previous console userbase ) --- >  GameCube sold 21.7 Million Lifetime - Wii has sold 74.2 Million so far ( an INCREASE of NEARLY 300% more owners ! ) .. Software wise you'll see the same trend, everyone has increased software sales over thieir previous gen console, except the PS3..

 


The PS2 was and still is the best selling and most successful console ever. It's hard to improve on that performance.

You're right, but it was launched in a perfect storm.. It launched 1.5 yrs ahead of its only competition the underpowered gamecube, which didnt include a DVD player.. it was till nearly 2 yrs later MS launched their first endeavor XB1 which while far superior was way late and had ramped up developer support.. i think the Wii will come close lifetime, but I thought the PS2 was better then the Will .. LOL


Let me say one more thing.. most of the world doesnt own a gaming console.. 5 Billion and only how many consoles sold ( all companies combined ) .. This is why Xbox Live is headed into the right direction making it more then just gaming.. but honestly there's alot of room to improve over PS2 sales if someone blows everyone away... when you consider world population and growth of cable internet - the PS2 record will be broken.. in the future its undeniable..



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mornelithe on 02 October 2010

Doubtful, Sony continues to make extremely high-quality games that never hit PC.  As time progresses, people are going to start realizing how badly the experience is nerfed on the 360, when compared to the PC counterpart.  Unfortunately, very few, if any Sony games ever actually hit PC, so it's actually necessary to buy a PS3, versus a 360...(ok, unless you like expensive paperweights).



Icyedge on 02 October 2010
rf40928 said:
Rafux said:

Its doing just fine for being the most expensive console, nobody knows for sure the effect GT5 is going to have and next year is full of exclusives. With no offense to the 360 but it seems their biggest game next year will be Gears of wars 3 but still Kinect is gonna sell truckloads.

Sony fans have a strong argument that the PS3 is a solid product, and it is.. but  from a business perspective, Sony can't take another last place console.  They really are just now barely making money from the PS3 which hardly offsets whats been lost the since launch 4 years ago.

If you want to compare Apples to Apples we neeed to stop comparing the sales of the PS3 to the Wii or Xbox 360.. This Gen probably has about 3 more yrs till you start seeing Next Gen consoles ( which gives you nearly a ten year cycle ) .. 

If you want to compare Apples to Apples stop comparing the sales of the PS3 to the Wii or Xbox 360..

Xbox 1 sold  24.6 million lifetime - Xbox 360 has sold 45.3 million so far ( an INCREASE of 98% more owners then the previous console userbase )   ---->  PS2 sold 137.1 million Lifetime - PS3 has sold 37.8 Million so far ( A DECREASE of 73% less owners then the previous console userbase ) --- >  GameCube sold 21.7 Million Lifetime - Wii has sold 74.2 Million so far ( an INCREASE of NEARLY 300% more owners ! ) .. Software wise you'll see the same trend, everyone has increased software sales over thieir previous gen console, except the PS3..

 

Just an insight, Apples to apples means comparing 2 similar things with the same element of measure. The company doesnt matter. When you compare PS3 sales to 360 sales your comparing apples to apples. Even more so then when you compare PS2 sales to PS3 sales. PS3/360 ressemble each other on more factors then PS2/PS3.



Rafux on 02 October 2010

Are you asking if PS3 could be number 1 in NA or are you asking if PS3 is dead in NA?

I don't think PS3 can´t be #1 in NA Life time sales (they are shooting for second place worldwide).

I don't think PS3 is dead in NA selling an average 50k weekly.



Chairman-Mao on 02 October 2010

I guess you've been sleeping the lasts 2 weeks when PS3 outsold Wii in America.

Anyways PS3 is just fine in America. And it shouldn't be that long (maybe in 2011?) when we get another price drop.



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Wonktonodi on 02 October 2010

Dead? Hardly;  of the 65 million games sold so far this year for the ps3 35 million have been in america.



naraku2099 on 02 October 2010

"In the final 3 months of the year the PS3 only has Move and G.T.5 to count on as big exclusive games." Move is not a game. Stupidity enrages me.



johnglen on 02 October 2010

PS3 is doing O.K in America , not great, not horrible kind of like how the 360  is doing in Europe. The ps3 is not doing that much better in Japan, it's just that the 360 is a complete failure there and that blinds some people when the reality is that the playstation brand has been badly damaged in Japan (Sony's home country) . 5.5 million in 4 years ?? That's ..not good at all.



AnveL on 02 October 2010

it's not dead just will stay at no.3 in US for this gen

but life time worldwide might be no.2 or even no.1 in the end

let's just wait and see...



*Sound Of Rain on 02 October 2010
Chairman-Mao said:

I guess you've been sleeping the lasts 2 weeks when PS3 outsold Wii in America.

Anyways PS3 is just fine in America. And it shouldn't be that long (maybe in 2011?) when we get another price drop.


In my opening post I said that PS3 outsold Wii by 6K this past charting week. Also its only been 1 week so far even though I expect the week ending the 2nd to be PS3>Wii but starting the 9th Wii>PS3 in America.

Also I will rephrase my post...PS3 may be dead in America when compared to the 360 and Wii.