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Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....



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libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.



If the ps3 ever came close to the 360's price in the UK, I could see it happening.  That won't be the case anytime soon.

The UK is a weird spot for the ps3.  It's a part of Europe, so it shares a similar pricepoint as the rest of Europe, yet the console's demand in the UK is more similar to that of the US than the rest of Europe.

In mainland Europe, the ps3 can get away with being a decent bit more expensive than the 360.  In the UK it needs to at least have price parity with the Elite SKU to be competitive.

I will say that, going by percentages, the 249 pound ps3 has generally held its own against the 199 pound 360 Elite better than the $399 ps3 did against the $299 Pro/Elite in NA.  Until the 360S released, of course.  However, 199 vs 249 is only a 25% increase in price, while 299 vs 399 is a 33% increase, so I guess that's somewhat expected.



theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

edited

For the recorded I don't hate it but it is pretty inaccurate and I'm not going to pretend it is accurate, (I mean adding 1 mil because of a mistake they made four years ago with it .3 mil from shipped numbers, I mean thats just stupid)

so it would be better for them to ignore a cumulative error? also the shipped numbers are released generally a month after they hit that number, so are you comparing to the numbers form the week shipments came out or lend of quarter numbers.  and as for the 360 being .3 (was the 360 right? or did i missread your post) the last quarter before cycling to a new model your going to be cycling down shipments cutting it close while trying to avoid shortages. though i will say i did not hear or see any 360 console shortages this year, (headset shortages though... for about 3 months hard as hell to find... it would happen when i break mine)

No you don't understand, VG had sales 300,000 behind the 360s shipped numbers when they were released at the fiscal report, VG then added 1,000,000 sales because they didn't count for something that happened four years ago (ie before the fiscal report), that means that they thought the 360 had more sold then shipped which is impossible, if you are arguing that the shipped numbers might have been a bit less then everything that was shipped at that point (things that fell into the fiscal report didn't account for everything up to the date of the release) I might almost buy that if there were shortages and it wasn't by so much and if they weren't behind 2 million on the ps3s and 1 million on the wiis but there were no shortages, ps3 was the one with shortages, theres no denying their numbers are millions off  


so let me see if i get what your saying, VGC on the day they released the quarters shipping numbers (which is a month after they stop counting for that quarter) only had 300K units free the number of free units im interested in is the number for the date the tracking for the quarter information ends, im betting that was more then 300k. by the time the numbers are out for us a month later who know MS could have holding shipments for the start of the next quarter and pumped a few hundred thousand out.

do you have the exact end date of the quarter in question, vgc listed as ltd and MS ltd. not the date the report was released but the date they stopped counting for the report

 

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goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

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VGchartz's numbers that was publish on N4G.
If you read the comments there. You will know. Lol



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johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO



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goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

edited

For the recorded I don't hate it but it is pretty inaccurate and I'm not going to pretend it is accurate, (I mean adding 1 mil because of a mistake they made four years ago with it .3 mil from shipped numbers, I mean thats just stupid)

so it would be better for them to ignore a cumulative error? also the shipped numbers are released generally a month after they hit that number, so are you comparing to the numbers form the week shipments came out or lend of quarter numbers.  and as for the 360 being .3 (was the 360 right? or did i missread your post) the last quarter before cycling to a new model your going to be cycling down shipments cutting it close while trying to avoid shortages. though i will say i did not hear or see any 360 console shortages this year, (headset shortages though... for about 3 months hard as hell to find... it would happen when i break mine)

No you don't understand, VG had sales 300,000 behind the 360s shipped numbers when they were released at the fiscal report, VG then added 1,000,000 sales because they didn't count for something that happened four years ago (ie before the fiscal report), that means that they thought the 360 had more sold then shipped which is impossible, if you are arguing that the shipped numbers might have been a bit less then everything that was shipped at that point (things that fell into the fiscal report didn't account for everything up to the date of the release) I might almost buy that if there were shortages and it wasn't by so much and if they weren't behind 2 million on the ps3s and 1 million on the wiis but there were no shortages, ps3 was the one with shortages, theres no denying their numbers are millions off  


so let me see if i get what your saying, VGC on the day they released the quarters shipping numbers (which is a month after they stop counting for that quarter) only had 300K units free the number of free units im interested in is the number for the date the tracking for the quarter information ends, im betting that was more then 300k. by the time the numbers are out for us a month later who know MS could have holding shipments for the start of the next quarter and pumped a few hundred thousand out.

do you have the exact end date of the quarter in question, vgc listed as ltd and MS ltd. not the date the report was released but the date they stopped counting for the report

 

edit sorry for the slow reply got caught up in minecraft

VG had the 360 sales at about 300k less then the amount MS said they shipped, and then a month or so later (not sure when just heard about it) they add 1 million to the 360 sales because of under tracking 4 years ago or something, so if they added it at any point before the shipped numbers for 360 came in, VG would have shown 700k more 360s sold then MS said were shipped (even if it sold that much in a month that would mean there are no 360s left in stores at all), and there were no reported shortages for 360s, where there were reported shortages of ps3s which had 2 million more shipped then VG had sold, which means VG chartz numbers are way off and inconsistent, as for the date of the report http://scrawlfx.com/2010/04/xbox-360-reaches-40-million-sold the article says april 23



libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

wouldn't an extra year on market make the 360s attach rate go down with more used games being available?

vie heard of piracy on the 360, though only through threads, is it really a big problem?  I know molding exists as i knew a few people who modded consoles to cheat at cod… and i stopped knowing them for that kind of shady shit. they generally had two to three consoles.  but it seems as if that would be such a small community with in  xbox.

ill admit i plan on replacing my launch box with a new unit id like to get hdmi on my console with optical out, and not have to use a special cable.  will significantly clear up the clutter. but i cant imagine thats  more the a few % at most who are willing to do that.


I do know that it has been frequently mentioned by ioi and the source that the first year of xbox software sales are  not as well recorded researched as following years for all consoles especial in europe, this could lead to a change in those ratios up or down as well. its a shame publishers do not realize old data say from 5 years prior so we could make more accurate tracking for these things. I feel it would help the industry overall.

anyway,…. sorry for the ramble … the first points the only real one



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libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

Also worth mentioning it's only like .6 or .7 higher on 360 then ps3, so not even significant to start with