You should really slap yourself for saying that, that's 100% bullshit. This game was shipped so broken, it was beyond fixing. That's why they scrapped the original ranking system (didn't work, easily exploited) with some half-assed XP Leveling up system. They basically threw TrueSkill out the window because MatchMaking didn't work, so now they just throw people together and hope for the best.

In Gears 2, just about every single match is extremely one-sided (complete slaughter of one team) and it's almost always based on connection. No host migration so tons of matches end early because of quitters. What about all the Host Bridging and Lag-Switching? Do you consider that to be fine? Host bridging was barely eliminated with TU6, and you can still lag-switch if you get host.

This game's MP is a broken pile of shit and I stand by my comments. If you ever visited the Epic forums you would understand that there was a real shit storm when Gears 2 was released, most of those topics were deleted and TONS of users were banned. This is how much hate this game generated. Go look at any old topic and look at the ammount of banned users, it's absurd. 

Gears 1 and Gears 2 play very differently and you wouldn't know this unless you spent a lot of time playing. Gears 1 sold more to a smaller base, there's a reason for that. Reviews don't matter, word of mouth killed this game's potential to grow the franchise.

If Dragon quest Wii comes out in Japan it can outsell Gow3 even with single territory.

Plenty of 3DS games will

for stationary consoles, it will be one of the best selling games for 2011 but the best... i doubt it, hence i dont even know what we are getting for next year.

What about Final Fantasy Versus/Agito?

That awesome kinect/move game we dont know yet, the next big wii party, sports game.

That would be a mess. I don't think Dragon Quest X can pass the 5 million mark in japan, and Gears cn easily reach that worldwide.

Meh, I don't believe Gears 2's multiplayer issues will have much of an effect on Gears 3. After all, the amount of hate I've seen for Fable III is enormous, and it's doing awesome in preorder numbers right now.

In my experience, the only problem Gears 2 had was the 3-5 minute wait you had to endure per game during the first week after launch. That was fixed, and TrueSkill was scrapped. They also added that level system (which I liked) late into the game, but other then that it was better then Gears 1 in every way.

In my experiences, Gears 1 had very 1 sided matches because people could pick their teams, in Gears 2 most of my games came very close.

I've played a lot of Gears of War 1 and 2 online. I have about 3-4k kills in Gears 1, and I'm over level 50 in Gears 2.

Anyway I dunno what your ranting about, yes if the host drops, the game ends, and that is annoying when you get a whinner who quits last minute cause he lost. However to me there was a lot less lag on MP, when I snipe someone in the head, I no longer have to accomidate for lag, I never get stuck to walls I don't want to get stuck to, and it's never choppy. Gears of War 2 was an amazing game online, much much better then the first. In Gears 1 MP was an afterthought and added very late into development. It had issues.

Also this debate is about Gears 2 "sucking soo much" that no one will be interested in Gears 3. Gears of War 2 had a far better narrarated plot then Gears 1, and it explained a lot more of the back story then Gears of War 1 did.

All I am saying is that just because you and some of your friends loved Gears of War 1, but were displeased with Gears of War 2, doesn't mean that everyone thought that way. You can't say "most" gamers feel this way, you probably only know 10 people who really play the game.

Ratings, and sales both show that Gears of War 2 was a moderatly successful game compared to the original, and although MP matchmaking could have been done better, how many developers can make a game that has hundreds of thousands of users going online at the same time, and not have problems with matchmaking?

Realistically Epic games should make a Beta like Bungie does with Halo, it would help.

In my opinion Gears 2 was phenominal, and if this thread is about the biggest game for 2011 using quality as the key factor, Epic Games will come ontop. Zelda and MW3 are the only 2 games I can potentially see being better built or selling more. Maybe Uncharted 3 for the quality factor, but not sales.

zelda could

elder scrolls 5 if it launches next year could

mario kart 3ds could

ocarina of time 3ds could

gears 3 can possibly be the top dog of 2011, but it will be a tough job.

@ Michael 5

I have to agree with PearlJam. The Gears 2 multiplayer is terrible, and this is coming from someone who plays it every night.

Is it fun? Yes.

Is it balanced? Hah, no.

Is it fundamentally sound? Absolutely not.

Even without the lag, and there are some things that don't make sense and they happen quite frequently. The hit detection on the shotgun is absolutely terrible half the time. People abuse the melee and about all the kills you see are two pieces. There's also a pretty clear advantage if you're the host, namely, your shotgun is way stronger and everybody else's hardly effects you. My point is a game like Halo whose multiplayer is fundamentally sound makes it look like a joke.

Gears of War3 will dominate everything, CANNOT WAIT!!

Thats kind of true, except I find it balanced. Bungie did a much better job with Halo.

Either way the debate is did Gears 2 mess up Gears online, and I see much less problems with Gears 2 multiplayer then Gears 1. It's not the most perfect experience (DAMN TWO PEICERS!!!), but I still love it. I put more hours into both Gears multiplayer then any other game online.