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NYANKS on 19 September 2010
jarrod said:
NYANKS said:

It doesn't contradict his statement if Sony has more shooters.  Sony has more of EVERYTHING.  They just make more and more varied games. 


Microsoft's actually published more racers, RPGs, sandbox and strategy games than Sony so far this gen.  Sony's published more shooters, platformers, sims, sports, adventure and casual/party games though.

Wouldn't development be a better gauge here than publishing?



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Goddbless on 19 September 2010

Isn't the PS3's list of exclusives mostly made up of shooters? I mean they're #1 selling exclusive thus far is a shooter.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 19 September 2010
Kenology said:
Wagram said:
kowenicki said:

Awwww poor Peter Dill... 

[...]

 

Amazing how you spin something into something it isn't. The PS3 is in third, but it isn't that far behind the 360 and it is the best third place seller of all time. So I fail to see how that is "making him rattled."

Especially since the last 2 generations Sony nailed both Nintendos and Microsofts ass to the wall in a no-contest match.

FPS games are just as good as any other genre. He merely stated that the 360 is more reliant on FPS games and it is, but it doesn't make it bad. Microsoft has done well to generate huge sales off of FPS games.

We're livin' in the past!

What's wrong with that?   

 



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NYANKS on 19 September 2010
Goddbless said:

Isn't the PS3's list of exclusives mostly made up of shooters? I mean they're #1 selling exclusive thus far is a shooter.

1. Prologue

2. Resistance

3. LBP

4. Uncharted 2

Not a bad mix if you ask me.  And with Motorstorm and God of War close behind.



c0rd on 19 September 2010
Alby_da_Wolf said:
themanwithnoname said:

[snip]

Sony:
Resistance
Resistance 2
Resistance 3
SOCOM: US Navy Seals Confrontation
SOCOM 4
Killzone 2
Killzone 3
Warhawk
MAG

Microsoft:
Halo 3
Halo 3 ODST
Halo Reach
Gears of War (also on PC)
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
Left 4 Dead (also on PC, published by Valve)
Left 4 Dead 2 (also on PC, published by Valve)

So that's 9 to 8 Sony or 9 to 5 Sony if you wanna discount the "console exclusives." What does everyone else think of Dille's comments? Is it coincidental that they were made the release of Halo Reach?

But considering sales, XB360 relies on them more than most other platforms, the top 3 XB360 sellers are shooters, and a total 7 out of the Top 10 are too, while on PS3 the current top seller and the 3rd are shooters, and a total 4 out of the top 10 are too, so they are undeniably important for PS3 too, but not as overwhelmingly as for XB360.

I'm not sure if you realize it, but the only difference between those top 3 / 10 you listed is Halo and Gears. Yes, Gears and Halo sell higher than any PS3 exclusive released, but we already knew that.

If you look down a bit further, say, the top 20, the consoles even out. The 360 doesn't have a single shooter in its top 11-20 sellers.



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NYANKS on 19 September 2010
c0rd said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
themanwithnoname said:

[snip]

Sony:
Resistance
Resistance 2
Resistance 3
SOCOM: US Navy Seals Confrontation
SOCOM 4
Killzone 2
Killzone 3
Warhawk
MAG

Microsoft:
Halo 3
Halo 3 ODST
Halo Reach
Gears of War (also on PC)
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
Left 4 Dead (also on PC, published by Valve)
Left 4 Dead 2 (also on PC, published by Valve)

So that's 9 to 8 Sony or 9 to 5 Sony if you wanna discount the "console exclusives." What does everyone else think of Dille's comments? Is it coincidental that they were made the release of Halo Reach?

But considering sales, XB360 relies on them more than most other platforms, the top 3 XB360 sellers are shooters, and a total 7 out of the Top 10 are too, while on PS3 the current top seller and the 3rd are shooters, and a total 4 out of the top 10 are too, so they are undeniably important for PS3 too, but not as overwhelmingly as for XB360.

I'm not sure if you realize it, but the only difference between those top 3 / 10 you listed is Halo and Gears. Yes, Gears and Halo sell higher than any PS3 exclusive released, but we already knew that.

If you look down a bit further, say, the top 20, the consoles even out. The 360 doesn't have a single shooter in its top 11-20 sellers.

Yeah but he may be thrying to convey the real drivers of each console.  Halo drives the console more than 11-20 combined.



Boutros on 19 September 2010
NYANKS said:
Goddbless said:

Isn't the PS3's list of exclusives mostly made up of shooters? I mean they're #1 selling exclusive thus far is a shooter.

1. Prologue

2. Resistance

3. LBP

4. Uncharted 2

Not a bad mix if you ask me.  And with Motorstorm and God of War close behind.

#1 is MGS4.



NYANKS on 19 September 2010
Boutros said:
NYANKS said:
Goddbless said:

Isn't the PS3's list of exclusives mostly made up of shooters? I mean they're #1 selling exclusive thus far is a shooter.

1. Prologue

2. Resistance

3. LBP

4. Uncharted 2

Not a bad mix if you ask me.  And with Motorstorm and God of War close behind.

#1 is MGS4. 

Ah, I thought we were doing first party games.  But the n that erases Halo, COD and Gears, doesn't it? My bad guys lol.  And that's the pinnacle of the stealth genre, MG.  And Prologue is rather close isn't it? Not sure lol.

Actually I guess Halo is first party, but not made by MS.  Odd



c0rd on 19 September 2010
NYANKS said:
c0rd said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

But considering sales, XB360 relies on them more than most other platforms, the top 3 XB360 sellers are shooters, and a total 7 out of the Top 10 are too, while on PS3 the current top seller and the 3rd are shooters, and a total 4 out of the top 10 are too, so they are undeniably important for PS3 too, but not as overwhelmingly as for XB360.

I'm not sure if you realize it, but the only difference between those top 3 / 10 you listed is Halo and Gears. Yes, Gears and Halo sell higher than any PS3 exclusive released, but we already knew that.

If you look down a bit further, say, the top 20, the consoles even out. The 360 doesn't have a single shooter in its top 11-20 sellers.

Yeah but he may be thrying to convey the real drivers of each console.  Halo drives the console more than 11-20 combined.

I was only pointing out, to anyone that didn't realize it, that Halo and Gears makes the entire difference. "Reliant on shooters" makes it sound like there are tons more up their sleeve, but there really aren't. Call of Duty and all of the sequels help mask this fact (even though CoD is multiplatform). It'd be more accurate if Dille said,

"Microsoft Reliant on Halo and Gears!"

Which, I dunno, sounds kind of ridiculous.



raptors11 on 19 September 2010
themanwithnoname said:

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82111/sony-xbox-360-is-reliant-on-shooters/

I figured now would be as good of a time as any to debate the perception of the 360 as a "shooterbox." Peter Dille didn't exactly say that, but it's directly implied with his comments about Microsoft.

Anyway my take is that this is pretty ironic considering that the PS3 has more exclusive shooters and more shooters published by Sony than the 360 has by Microsoft.

Taking a gander at the list:

Sony:
Resistance
Resistance 2
Resistance 3
SOCOM: US Navy Seals Confrontation
SOCOM 4
Killzone 2
Killzone 3
Warhawk
MAG

Microsoft:
Halo 3
Halo 3 ODST
Halo Reach
Gears of War (also on PC)
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
Left 4 Dead (also on PC, published by Valve)
Left 4 Dead 2 (also on PC, published by Valve)

So that's 9 to 8 Sony or 9 to 5 Sony if you wanna discount the "console exclusives." What does everyone else think of Dille's comments? Is it coincidental that they were made the release of Halo Reach?


Its not about who has more shooters, its about 360 having a much higher percentage of shooters and relying on them for sales, whereas Sony has other genred games like Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank, LittleBigPlanet and more.