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Carl2291 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Carl2291 said:

The battle system is boring? It's a spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. What were you expecting it to be like? How was this boring compared to Mass "Run, Gun, Cover, Repeat" Effect? IMO Dragon Age's battle system is way ahead of Mass Effect's. The simple fact that there is friendly fire and you can mix spells together puts it ahead. And on the PC it's even better.

I find it hard to grasp you complain about it not being an open-world game, yet in the same post you give a thumbs up to Mass Effect.

Morrigan is awesome. And you liked Mordin but didn't like the constant banter between whatever people you have in your group? If you had Alistair and Morrigan in your group the little arguements and them both taking the piss out of eachother was awesome. Having Morrigan and Sten in your party was even better! And what big troll thing? You didn't get a troll... And again, I love how you complain about the characters in Dragon Age, when Oblivion obviously had the most interesting cast ever!

IMO... Your opinion on WRPG's sucks.

Oblivion has an average battle system (although plenty of variety), terrible characters, a terrible storyline and an excellent world.

Mass Effect has an average battle system, good characters, a great storyline and a great (but boring) "world".

Mass Effect 2 has an average battle system, great characters, great storyline and a great "world" (although unlike ME1 you can no longer explore it).

Dragon Age has an average battle system, great characters, good storyline and a good world. Yes, it's pretty average... But in reality if you look at it the way you do, then so are Oblivion and Mass Effect 1 and 2.

Knights of the Old Republic I refuse to comment on.
Knights of the Old Republic 2 gets the same treatment.

Yes the battle system is boring.

Target selection is infuriatingly vague and a lot of it is according to where your character is facing. Using the reticule in the radial menu only marginally helps. Trying to select foe's accross battlefields is a mess, it should be intuitive, but its not. 

 The battle system doesn't really introduce anything really new, nothing felt fresh, the AI thingy was like gambits {shudders} and its not like the graphics were amazing to make battles a spectacle on scene. You see there is a reason Bioware is doing massive changes to it in Dragon Age 2.....

Now Mass Effect on the other hand, the 1st one's battle system did have its problems, but the 2nd one's battle system played as an amazing third person shooter which is infinetly more fun that the Dragon Age System.

Oblivion.....the gameplay was pretty simple, casting spells was fun. Again simple but fun, Dragon Age wasn't fun, depth doesn't always translate to fun.

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Next characters. Don't compare Mordin Solus to the banter that goes on in the team because you clearly didn't understand why I liked Mordin then......Mordin Solus is awesome because of the way he speaks and the cool information he give you about his species and what he is researching. The world of Mass Effect which you call boring was actually spectacularly done and it has interesting characters, ones I want to find out about. Dragon Age had none of that.

"Banter" in the team was amusing, but it got boring, quick.

I got attached to each and every person in my crew in Mass Effect, I felt bad when some of them died on the suicide mission, I remembered awesome times I had with the people that died. In Dragon Age I didn't care what happened to anyone except again, Morrigan.

In Oblivion the cast didn't matter because you didn't even have one, so how can I say thats a bad thing about Oblivion when the game wasn't meant to be played like that?

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Next world.

No you cannot explore the worlds in ME1/2 that much but you can't in Dragon Age either. I have read the datalog of both Mass Effect 1/2 and Dragon Age......the world of Mass effect is done so much better. Its full of interesting locales, there's even a planet with a bullet hole through it in that galaxy, it just goes to show how deep the games lore is, I WANT to find out about all those thing in Mass Effect.

With dragon age the world just wasn't interesting, most of it felt like it had been done before, there was no interest, the lore of the game was pretty dull compared to ME1/2.

Oblivion next.....the world here was done excellently, you feel like you are there and if you join all the guilds you find out interesting things about the world. The Dark Brotherhood story arc alone was more interesting that Dragon Age itself. Almost everything in Oblivion except the main story was well done, but we can excuse it for that because the other parts of the game are unmatched.

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Oblivion has an good battle system,decent characters (though that was not its focus), a decent main storyline, FANTASTIC Dark Brotherhood and side mission storylines and an excellent world.

Mass Effect has an average battle system, amazing characters, a great storyline and a very well done world full of interesting planets and people.

Mass Effect 2 has an amazing battle system, awesome characters, good storyline and a Mindblowing world full of so many interesting events that I want to know more about.

Dragon Age has an boring battle system, bad characters (except morrigan), average storyline and a average world.

So no Dragon Age is worse than Oblivion, ME1/2 still and Bioware's worst.

And why do you refuse to comment on KOTOR?

 

You need to play it on PC. It's far superior to the console version simply because of the top-down view. That's all I'm going to say about your complaints there. They are changing the battle system because of the console crowd, and the fact that the console versions have outsold the PC version. On the PC, the battle system has pretty much no flaws, although I can see why you dislike it if you've only played it on consoles. But if you think having to work out some complex strategies is boring in battle then, well... I don't know what to say. You just adopt a Vanguard strategy and run in with a shotgun...

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Sten could be matched up pretty well to Mordin then come to think about it. He's reluctant to talk to you about his people at first but then when he starts to trust you, he opens up more. He tells you about his people and the ways they have. Maybe not as complex as Mordin, but you still have that history. Same goes for Leilana. She tells you about her past and how life was in Orlais . Infact, you learn a whole bunch of stuff from each and every character. I'm also going to say that characters have a different opinion on you depending on your race/class. Something Mass Effect doesn't really have, while Oblivion does.

And you have a cast in Oblivion. You don't have a group travelling with you... But you DO have a cast. And pretty much every character you meet is emotionless. Literally hundreds of characters who are all stone faced and lack any sort of depth in story or voice. The fact that you say it doesn't have a cast of characters says all that's needed to be said.

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Mass Effect's world has been created over the span of 3 Games, 3 Novels and 3 Comics. Dragon Age has so far had 1 single game, 2 Novels and 1 comic. Of course the world isn't going to be as complex to look at or read about. But when you're actually playing... You can go to many more places. Not just "scan" for minerals like in the case of Mass Effect 2. You can enter random homes, do numerous sidequests, pickpocket an entire marketplace... Etc. There's plenty of things to do, and plenty of choices that affect the game, the final battle and how people interact with you throughout the game.

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Your round-up.

I simply think your opinion on WRPG's sucks.

And KotoR is pointless in this topic as it's probably only second to Baldur's Gate... And was a last gen game.

ITs not a matter of a character having a back story, the back story should be interesting. The Mass Effect characters had interesting back stories, especially those in ME2 (Jack, The Assassin, Mordin and more). Just because Leliana and Sten have back stories doesn't mean they are interesting ones because while Leliana's was pretty decent as orlais sounded good, Sten's back story was meh.

And Oblivion doesn't have a cast of characters, I see a cast of characters as those you are with you through most of the game, the people you get to know and hopefully care about. 

Oblivion has supporting characters, but not a main cast. 

And lets pretend ME2 doesn't exist for a second, even ME1's world was more interesting than Dragon Age's through reading about it, and I have read no novels you speak about.

entering random homes and stealing things isn't really "fun", doing side quests is if they are good like in Oblivion, in Dragon age they are pretty meh. In Oblivion the events that happen in side quests are extremely fun......and to do a side quest you need to like a battle system, if the battle system is boring your motivation to do the side quest will go down anyway. In fact talking about variety.......Oblivion pretty much has Dragon Age beat there.

And ME1/2 had several side quests, but no you couldn't go into homes and steal stuff, thankfully.......and plenty of choices affect things in ME1/2 as well, in fact choices made in ME1 affect ME2. I'm not sure if we will see that in Dragon Age. And scanning was only a bit less boring than Dragon Age's battle ssytem, so its fine

The fact is Bioware is making so many changes tell us they have realised changes need to be made to Dragon Age because they themselves know now there were key problems with it.

If you think Oblivion or ME1/2 is worse than Dragon Age then our feelings on each others WRPG tastes is mutual.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

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So they are pretty much changing it to Dragon Effect to please console owners.. I love Mass Effect but I also loved original Dragon Age (PC version). It was nice to have two different kinds of WRPG's from Bioware..



Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:

Guys, guys

How about that Dragon Age 2, huh

Looks mighty sweet

This is a thread about how awesome Dragon Age: Origins is, don't you DARE try to take it off topi-

Oh.

I agree!

I really need to play the first one.

I've got Shale downloaded and everything just.... waiting.

Soon. Soon. God, Reach is here. But I will get to Dragon Age. This I swear.



Khuutra said:

Guys, guys

How about that Dragon Age 2, huh

Looks mighty sweet

Yes it can because they are already improving on Dragon Age 1's problems!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:

Guys, guys

How about that Dragon Age 2, huh

Looks mighty sweet

Yes it can because they are already improving on Dragon Age 1's problems!

Darth, why you got to hate

Why you got to do a thing



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Im with Khuutra.

This game is going to be sweet.

But I also want more Mass Effect 2 on PS3 info now!!!!!



www.jamesvandermemes.com

Khuutra said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:

Guys, guys

How about that Dragon Age 2, huh

Looks mighty sweet

Yes it can because they are already improving on Dragon Age 1's problems!

Darth, why you got to hate

Why you got to do a thing

It is important to assert Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion dominance in WRPG's every one or two weeks. Metroid Other M was good BTW!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Khuutra said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:

Guys, guys

How about that Dragon Age 2, huh

Looks mighty sweet

Yes it can because they are already improving on Dragon Age 1's problems!

Darth, why you got to hate

Why you got to do a thing

Edit - Nevermind. I was thinking the wrong thing. Just go back to playing ME2 and forget I said anything.



www.jamesvandermemes.com

darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:

Guys, guys

How about that Dragon Age 2, huh

Looks mighty sweet

Yes it can because they are already improving on Dragon Age 1's problems!

Darth, why you got to hate

Why you got to do a thing

It is important to assert Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion dominance in WRPG's every one or two weeks. Metroid Other M was good BTW!

I really enjoyed Oblivion open-world feel, but the characters and main quest was awful IMO.

There were some great sidequests though.

Now, lets stop derailing the thread.



www.jamesvandermemes.com

darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:

Guys, guys

How about that Dragon Age 2, huh

Looks mighty sweet

Yes it can because they are already improving on Dragon Age 1's problems!

Darth, why you got to hate

Why you got to do a thing

It is important to assert Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion dominance in WRPG's every one or two weeks. Metroid Other M was good BTW!

Oblivion isn't even the best WRPG made by Bethesda. It's not even the best Elder Scroll's game ¬_¬

I'm ignoring you now for at least 5 minutes.

@Khuutra

Play it! Asap! You wont regret it, 'tis awesome. Just make sure you've done it before DA2 releases!