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bmmb1 said:
NYANKS said:
IxisNaugus said:
oniyide said:

@ixisnaugus  you know Ninty still makes their own games right??

I know this, I was speaking entirely on the stance of third-party support. There was a time when I believed support would pick up some, if a little bit. But I have been waiting and waiting, in vain. I was foolishly optimistic, there is no support coming for the Wii, from anyone.

Third parties do not wan't the Wii, they do not need the Wii, and that is all there is to it.

I remember when some Wii fans here were mad at this fact and they were all "fine! then they'll all just go bankrupt!" A bit of an overreaction.  Then again, Wii gets support from big devs, just not always the support fans like ones on this site want.  On the other hand, Ninty is doing just fine without them, so what the heck i guess lol.

Uh guys, guys, You're talking as though there is no 3rd party support anywhere for the Wii. While 3rd party support admittedly is not super great, it is not an overall worldwide "dead", this is Japanese 3rd party support we are talking about here, there is still 3rd party support in the West for the Wii from the likes of Activision (Goldeneye, Black Ops), Disney (Guilty Party, Epic Mickey), Ubisoft (I don't remember the titles but besides Just Dance 2 there are also some "real" games) and others (e.g. THQ's Udraw - some nice potential there).

Oh I know, it still has games of course.  I guess the West can't provide for all of their gaming needs?  That plus I think it seems absurd to them that it wouldn't be getting more, as it is the market leader.  Pretty interesting situation though.



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@bmmb1

Yes i suppose a few western devs are still around for the Wii. Games such as Goldeneye and Epic Mickey are definitely some big titles, at least bigger than other titles from other publishers. They may even have other projects in the works for after those games release. There are a few who are still trying and that is very nice to know. I have my doubts about how long this will last though, publishers such as EA have lately voiced their disappointment with the Wii.

@NYANKS

I don't know about going bankrupt from a complete lack of Wii development, though some have closed down and others are clearly going down that same path. This is, though, a very sad affair. There were chances for a lot of success on the Wii, instead third parties decided it was best that they just ignore the console altogether. They have all but come out and said themselves that they refuse to support the console because they do not wan't to, which I believe is probably what they should do right now. If anything, at least they would be being honest. I remember a while back when companies like Capcom expressed their commitment to supporting all consoles fairly, so much for that plan.



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IxisNaugus said:

I have my doubts about how long this will last though, publishers such as EA have lately voiced their disappointment with the Wii.

EA have actually abandoned the Wii (except for casual games) a long time ago - some would say after Dead Space Extraction, and some (including me) would say before (hence Dead Space Extraction - imo very possibly a deliberate move on EA's part). And given their behavior (and their having caused actual damage to the Wii's image in the eyes of other publishers with their behavior) I say good riddance. Personally I have decided not to support any EA effort on any Nintendo platform (I dont own any other) unless it is a real effort that shows they have changed their ways.

 

Here's a theory though - it is probably incorrect, but who knows... I would have expected at the very least something from Capcom, even something minor, since they do actually provide some reasonable support for the Wii. My theory is that since we don't see even that, possibly the reason we see zero new announcements from any Japan developers is because they have Wii2 kits in their hands and are working on that.



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i think any significant third party announcement nintendo maybe told them to hold off maybe for nintendos own conference



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At the very least, I expected "sure thing" upgrades/sequels like Taiko Wii 3, Momotaru 2011, SW3 Empires or whatever to be announced by now.  About all we've really gotten recently announced was another Active Life game (lol), Earth Seeker (looks awesome, but will probably bomb), NMH2 (late!) and Inazmua Eleven Strikers (which isn't even an RPG any longer).  Not exactly great. :/

On the other hand, TGS has never been strong in terms of Wii announcements, so this isn't exactly a change or anything.  I expect the fall conference to be mostly 3DS, but for Wii's sake Nintendo better have some holiday 3rd party wares lined up for the system.



jarrod said:

At the very least, I expected "sure thing" upgrades/sequels like Taiko Wii 3, Momotaru 2011, SW3 Empires or whatever to be announced by now.  About all we've really gotten recently announced was another Active Life game (lol), Earth Seeker (looks awesome, but will probably bomb), NMH2 (late!) and Inazmua Eleven Strikers (which isn't even an RPG any longer).  Not exactly great. :/

On the other hand, TGS has never been strong in terms of Wii announcements, so this isn't exactly a change or anything.  I expect the fall conference to be mostly 3DS, but for Wii's sake Nintendo better have some holiday 3rd party wares lined up for the system.

I mean, from a sales standpoint it probably doesn't even need them.  It's still seeling well, and Nintedno is doing like 95% of the heavy lifting.  Donkey Kong and Kirby should do the trick for a while a keep sales rolling along.



I find it disturbing, that the leading console lacking so much in so many different genres. Ive never seen that with any of the leading platforms of yesteryear.  few RPGs, very fighters. and half of them or ports or compilations of past gen games. few racing games with no sims. no WRPGs. not that much FPSs compared. Weird



oniyide said:

I find it disturbing, that the leading console lacking so much in so many different genres. Ive never seen that with any of the leading platforms of yesteryear.  few RPGs, very fighters. and half of them or ports or compilations of past gen games. few racing games with no sims. no WRPGs. not that much FPSs compared. Weird


The simple fact is that all publishers had planned on the Wii to fail from day one.  Publishers plan out 5 years in advance (some more, some less) and because they never allocated resources, funding, conceptual testing, engine development, etc...this is what we got.

Several publishers have stepped forard and admitted this but by that point, it was too late.  They couldn't drop 4-5 years worth of X360/PS3 development, planning and testing and try to target the Wii.  They'd already be several years behind (and this shows already for the games they do release).



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NYANKS said:
jarrod said:

At the very least, I expected "sure thing" upgrades/sequels like Taiko Wii 3, Momotaru 2011, SW3 Empires or whatever to be announced by now.  About all we've really gotten recently announced was another Active Life game (lol), Earth Seeker (looks awesome, but will probably bomb), NMH2 (late!) and Inazmua Eleven Strikers (which isn't even an RPG any longer).  Not exactly great. :/

On the other hand, TGS has never been strong in terms of Wii announcements, so this isn't exactly a change or anything.  I expect the fall conference to be mostly 3DS, but for Wii's sake Nintendo better have some holiday 3rd party wares lined up for the system.

I mean, from a sales standpoint it probably doesn't even need them.  It's still seeling well, and Nintedno is doing like 95% of the heavy lifting.  Donkey Kong and Kirby should do the trick for a while a keep sales rolling along.

Oh, I think system sales are going to truck along okay, at least through year's end and probably next spring, but they could've been so much better.  Wii really *should* be the new PS2, but 3rd parties have basically prevented that from happening themselves, and really that's as much to their detriment as it is Nintendo's.  Better luck for all next cycle.