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Final-Fan said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Final-Fan said:
Yeah, but the question is, "Can you use, tonight, the kill power you got off Heph last night?

And if the answer is "yes" I really think you should do that.  But don't tell us who you're going after for reasons people already pointed out. 

I can't use a power I stole last night on today's night. I can only use it on that same night.

So, what, you get a PM telling you what you got and then you have to PM back a new target?  Or you have to decide in advance who to hit with your new power? 

I don't like the sound of either one:  the first, because it would drag out the night and why didn't you use it; and the second, because you wouldn't know if you were killing or protecting or blocking or whatevering that person. 

Its the first, and it won't extend the night by much cause I usually log onto VGC once every 12 hours or so...except maybe on Monday.

And as I said before, I was seriously considering about killing nen-suer, but I decided against it...it was a tough decision, and the last thing I wanted to do was take out some kick ass role, kinda like Heph did on day one in the last game by killing the day-time vigilante.

Sure, you guys say that there was a 25% chance of hitting scum...but what about the 75% chance of hitting pro-town ? 

Final-Fan said:

OK tell me what you think of this idea.  Use it again on Heph.  If a bus driver redirects you, it's a small loss as you don't know what anyone else has anyway.  Blocking doesn't matter because that's YOU, not him. 

If you get a kill power ... use it on Heph.  In fact if you get any power at all that proves he's lying. 
The only downside to this plan is that if Heph is not lying you wasted possibly your last night on this earth

I might be cool with this if anyone has any other lynch targets.....I say I "might" for obvious reasons...



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theRepublic said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

Stefl1504 said:

That is actually... A REALLY GOD IDEA!

Though it does not matter I would not vote for Metalgear because I was somehow in the same situation in my first mafia game... I was joking arround and got killed for it... but since I cannot vote it doesn't matter that much...

No one else saw this.....really ? Well, this is interesting....why exactly can't you vote ?

I'm pretty sure he said that he was "Silenced" during the night.

Something just occurred to me.  That means there are only 14 voters today right?  Does that make the majority 7, or does it stay at 8?  We should be careful going about lynching Today.

Yep I was silenced during the night... I have already posted it in my first and third post this day.

I even said that I pretty much believed that this is a pro town role... but thinking about it I don't can think of any faction except for mafia to profit from such a role... just because its easier for them to get a misslynch.



If gow targets me tonight there are 4 things that could happend.

1) he gets roleblocked (not likely as he said himself that he is a roleblocker already, dtewi had fun with the roles, I doubt we'd have 2 of these)

2) he gets kill ability.... you'll be able to draw conclusions when i'm dead...

3) If I lied about my reflect being a one off, he could ends up getting the cop ability or whatever. (not in my best interest to shuffle the cards?)

4) he'll know why i'm against nameclaiming, and why in my post presenting the idea, I said I wanted him to be smart about it. (post that apparently no one saw... since only repeats by others are referenced to...).

 

anyone thinking straight will conclude that only 1 and 4 are likely to happend.

 

 

 

(Dtewi still hasen't given GoW his time of death? it's a doom spell, number above the head, this should be available info to him ^^)



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so if the sphere was voluntary....

why wasn't there any kill due to the time shift?

the questions is thus: what about town actions? did they get a repeat for both nights? this would explain how that plan failed thanks to D&H.

Also Dtewi said the "all day" was a flavor of text. so I doubt the silenced has anything with it. If anything stelf could just have said nothing and just fosed people but never actually vote.

 

All of this happened night one why:

_ for scum it's better to use the ability while they are all alive, most potential and it confuses the town.

_ For D&H it's better to use early because they can be cured ( hence the no role in the op), leaves more time for this and in effect won't harm the town in the long run.



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

Its the first, and it won't extend the night by much cause I usually log onto VGC once every 12 hours or so...except maybe on Monday.

And as I said before, I was seriously considering about killing nen-suer, but I decided against it...it was a tough decision, and the last thing I wanted to do was take out some kick ass role, kinda like Heph did on day one in the last game by killing the day-time vigilante.

Sure, you guys say that there was a 25% chance of hitting scum...but what about the 75% chance of hitting pro-town ? 

I might be cool with this if anyone has any other lynch targets.....I say I "might" for obvious reasons...

don't sweat it you won't get a kill if you target me ^^



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Maybe we have a cure ability and a shatter ability in this game...



I am talking about our two stones^^



GodOfWar_3ever said:
I got a PM telling me what I got and then I had to PM back a new target, and it won't extend the night by much cause I usually log onto VGC once every 12 hours or so...except maybe on Monday.

And as I said before, I was seriously considering about killing nen-suer, but I decided against it...it was a tough decision, and the last thing I wanted to do was take out some kick ass role, kinda like Heph did on day one in the last game by killing the day-time vigilante.

Sure, you guys say that there was a 25% chance of hitting scum...but what about the 75% chance of hitting pro-town ? 

Well then I really think you ought to have shot that kill power right back at the one you got it from.  All you have to do is think to yourself, "who might have a killing power -- is it probably pro- or anti-town?"  And it might be a pro-town vigilante, but it is FAR more likely scum.  Just so ya know. 

And it would have almost certainly reflected again killing whoever it was Heph redirected you to, if he's telling the truth.  Which I'm actually kind of inclined to believe, since his remarks on Day 1 are explained well by his story, and not IMO by him being scum. 

GoW, when you read this, I hope you understand what you should do tonight.  Shh. 



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Final-Fan said:

And it would have almost certainly reflected again killing whoever it was Heph redirected you to, if 


it would have reflected for a random kill (but not me, so 4/15 chance of scum), which was my original plan. Actually i would have had GoW vouch for my story too :op so it would have been better.



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So, people who have been suspected so far today:

Hephaestos - Confusing roleclaim, refusal to nameclaim.

MG94 - "Joke" which involved correctly identifying j0 as Aerith; series of FF villain avatars.

GodOfWar_3Ever (though not quite as much) - Relentlessly prosecuting and almost deliberately misunderstanding Heph.

There isn't enough evidence for me to vote in any of these cases.

Does anyone have any other suspicions?



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