How can they sell out of Pre-Orders?

It's a special limited edition bundle that they're only making a certain number of. Based on the fact that they made 200k Lightning and GT5P bundles I'm assuming that's how many they're producing in this case as well.

If the GT5 Bundle comes with a blue PS3, and is not limited in numbers, then GT5 launch will boost more HW then Reach. Even if it is limited editon,, It's soooo blue!!!!

Seriously, I think both will boost hardware, probably GT5 will boost more consoles since it is the first proper GT, and Reach is the second proper Halo on a current gen.

However it depends on ratings. Halo: Reach ratings to me were lower then expected, and I think those 9.3/9.5 ratings will hurt the games sales (as it's no longer that ubber perfect shooter, still amazing). So if GT5 rating are higher, it should sell better comparitivly. However, I don't know if GT5 will get above 9.6/10 ratings.

Still, there are a few factors that could make Halo push more HW, but I vote GT5.

Wait, nevermind, GT5 will of course get a larger hardware boost. It's releasing in November, basically the highest month in consoles sales (along with december). Duh...

But Kinect Halo > Move GT5.... to be fair.

What the hell, I might as well double dip on it.  I want to play through to try out the various other scenarios, but I've been waiting for Move to arrive to do so.  Guess I quick trade in / trade up will be in order.

At least I held of buying RE5 to wait for the Gold edition - so I don't have the issue their of having to do the same.

There is only so much you can do with driving games.  Detail put into driving games ends up going into things that are more for gear heads.   For FPS, you can introduce new modes and features, and keep it fresh. It can go into different directions, as is seen with Borderlands, as an example.  You can also do like Rage, where an FPS also gets a driving game attached to it.

This being said, Gran Turismo is an entirely different animal than your normal driving game as far as relevance go.  It may be possible though, that GT5 moves more consoles than Reach, but Reach outsells GT5.

I know about GT that game is nothin special, played it on PS2 back in the days...Racing games aren't FPS they not movin units like y'all hyping it to be

LOL doubt he'll even remember .

I didn't say it won't be good but, I'm afraid that racing games just aren't that popular like it used to, sad really. 

Mario Kart Wii???

It may not sell 10 million, but GT5 should break 8 million. The racing genre is supposedly "oversaturated", but a crown title like GT should break the mold. Just not as well as before due to the smaller install base.

He is entitled to his own opinion. I bet a lot of people gave up on GT because of this horrendous wait.

I WANT IT .....in 2 weeks, Halo now.