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The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?



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Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.



TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.


This is also the case of US and British soldiers who fight in Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries for their general's orders. Can they defy that they will be in Army but will not obey the order of the general? If you think the general is right by giving order of killing, what rationalizes that?



TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.



TheRealMafoo said:
chapset said:

you don't see any Muslim in north america burn any bible either, most of these radical Muslims live in third world countries where they don't get a proper education, ignorance will always breed violence. In africa muslims and christians kill each other everyday but you don't ear about that in the news because things like that are so common over there. Christians are not cowards they are just civilized and most of them are more educated then those extremist muslims.


I think the link with terrorists and lack of education is overstated.

The men who flew plains into the world trade center, were well educated. Osama is well educated. The man who shot up fort hood is educated. Ramzi Yousef (the 1993 world trade center bomber) was well educated.

All of them come from different countries. The only link they have, is they are all Muslim, and did what they did in the name of god.

that's right a minority are well educated, they are the one on top of the ladder but look at a lower level and what you will see is farmers who are mad because their kids got killed in US military operations or a bunch of kids who got brainwashed by the few who are using religion as a weapon, if christian didn't have their tanks and jets they would be doing the same. Bring some kind of wealth and education to this countries and you will se terorism will be reduce by a lot



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TheRealMafoo said:
babuks said:

 

- Mohammed had 15 women, one of them he marriaged in the age of 6 years and made a child in the age of 9 years (when he was 53 years old)

You have to read the whole life style of him. He married at the age of 25 a woman of 40 years old. She was rich. She gave all her money to Muhammad (pbuh). And he spent all of them for poor.

Muhammad (pbuh) did not marry until his first wife died. And only the girl you mentioned of being 6 years old was a virgin, every other wives were widows. So, he did not marry them to meet his lust. His has done them for purpose. You have to read those marriage histories in order to find out the truth.

Umm... sorry, but wtf?

You telling me it's OK to overlook a man knocking up an 8-9 year old because he did some other things in his life that were good? Really? That's your argument?

Oh, and as for "eye for an eye" thing, that's the Jews. Jesus came and changed the rules for the Christians. Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek or some stupid shit.

Then you surely did not read the Bible. Jesus (pbuh) himself said that in Mathew 5:17 - 5:19 - "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till   heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled . 

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Christianity is not a new religion. It is the same as the previous ones and you cannot change the laws of the previous Prophets. So, if you want to take his word as granted, you have to believe in the laws of the previous Prophets namely Moses (pbuh) and others. So, 'eye for an eye' is not jews' property. It is a Christian law as well.



KillerMan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.

But they don't now. Christianity has grown up. Islam seriously needs to grow up.

Which isn't to say, of course, that all Muslims are extremists. Just a hell of a lot more Muslims than Christians.

And to clarify, I have no high opinion of Christianity, either.



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Kantor said:
KillerMan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Kantor said:

The majority of the Islamic world is war-torn and impoverished. The people you see burning Bibles and American flags are ignorant fools who have been brainwashed by terrorist groups into hating everything not expressly approved by their twisted version of the Qur'an. Is the West responsible for that? No. Is Islam responsible for that? Not really, no. Only circumstance is responsible for that.

I can sit comfortably in a warm room in a nice chair and post this without any fear for my life. I don't need to take things out on Islam. Someone sitting in Iraq or Afghanistan probably won't have a warm room or a nice chair, and if they're brought up from birth to believe that that is the fault of America rather than a succession of oppressive terrorist regimes, what do you expect them to think?

You imply that terrorist kill out of jealousy. They don't. They kill for god. They don't kill because you have something they don't. They kill because you have something god says is wrong.

It would be much harder to twist other religions into that way of thinking, then it is Islam.

Christians were doing the same thing just couple of hundred years ago.

But they don't now. Christianity has grown up. Islam seriously needs to grow up.

Which isn't to say, of course, that all Muslims are extremists. Just a hell of a lot more Muslims than Christians.

And to clarify, I have no high opinion of Christianity, either.


I absolutely agree. It's just wrong to say that as religion islam is somehow more violent than christianity. Past proves this wrong. It was basically Industrial revolution that started to change christianity more tolerant. Islam world needs the same change.



chapset said:
TheRealMafoo said:
chapset said:

you don't see any Muslim in north america burn any bible either, most of these radical Muslims live in third world countries where they don't get a proper education, ignorance will always breed violence. In africa muslims and christians kill each other everyday but you don't ear about that in the news because things like that are so common over there. Christians are not cowards they are just civilized and most of them are more educated then those extremist muslims.


I think the link with terrorists and lack of education is overstated.

The men who flew plains into the world trade center, were well educated. Osama is well educated. The man who shot up fort hood is educated. Ramzi Yousef (the 1993 world trade center bomber) was well educated.

All of them come from different countries. The only link they have, is they are all Muslim, and did what they did in the name of god.

that's right a minority are well educated, they are the one on top of the ladder but look at a lower level and what you will see is farmers who are mad because their kids got killed in US military operations or a bunch of kids who got brainwashed by the few who are using religion as a weapon, if christian didn't have their tanks and jets they would be doing the same. Bring some kind of wealth and education to this countries and you will se terorism will be reduce by a lot

Hahaha, thats not true.

Turkey is rich and the people there are well educadet.

Still, christians and jews are being killed. And the government doesnt allow churches to be repaired and so on.



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You people here just  know NOTHING about Islam.

Youre like "christianity is the same and they have made wars too"

1. The Quran wants the muslims to do wars, you cant change the word that came supposedly of god/allah, so it will never "grow up".

2. The Bible never told the people to do wars, so its another case for the christians and christianity.

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Inform yourselves about the situation of "non-believers" in muslim countries and read the quran, islamic hadiths and inform yourselves about the historical background and your opinion will change drastically.

Some years ago i was the same like you, thinking islam is a religion like christianity or judaism, but it is not.

I started to see it, when i realized that the only people here in germany who make trouble come from muslim countries.

Dont be so stupid, its the world you live in and if we dont start to change something our children will have many problems...



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