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Viper1 said:

And I'm telling you that Sony has 102.49 for years now.  In government records, financial documents, investor reports, press releases, public statements, trade shows, live broadcasts, interviews, promotional material, etc...etc...etc...etc....

And yes, I'm calling out Peter Dille if in fact he did say 130 million and not merely had the text tranposed from 103 million.


well good for you..but you can disagree with him of course if you want...lol



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Viper1 said:

And I'm telling you that Sony has 102.49 for years now.  In government records, financial documents, investor reports, press releases, public statements, trade shows, live broadcasts, interviews, promotional material, etc...etc...etc...etc....

And yes, I'm calling out Peter Dille if in fact he did say 130 million and not merely had the text tranposed from 103 million.


Opinion noted.

So how about those 130 million PS1's that have been shipped?



raptors11 said:
Viper1 said:

And I'm telling you that Sony has 102.49 for years now.  In government records, financial documents, investor reports, press releases, public statements, trade shows, live broadcasts, interviews, promotional material, etc...etc...etc...etc....

And yes, I'm calling out Peter Dille if in fact he did say 130 million and not merely had the text tranposed from 103 million.


Opinion noted.

So how about those 130 million PS1's that have been shipped?

Oh they're fantastic.  I heard Mars was really pleased to get a shipment of 27.5 million of them.

And lucky for Sony they didn't have to pay any income tax on them because the Japanese Financial Services Agency doesn't have jurisdiction over extraterrestrial planetary bodies.



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joeorc said:
iHuGi said:

30M in 7 months... loool wtf Ps1 officially the Fastest Selling Console ever :D

they wound down production but is it so hard to think in 12 months time that 28 million unit's were produced for a machine that at the time was already 10 year's old?

esp. for places that are just now getting the PS2 for the very first time..but when did those same countries got their very first playstation 1?


YES! You're talking about the peak production rate that the Wii had when it was selling its fastest, and more than PS2 at any time to date. It's ridiculous to think that much production would be done for a console that was on its very last legs when the PS2 was still popular and the PS3 was nearing launch, not to mention PSPs as well.

Also it's incredible that you think the 102.49M number from http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps_e.html is just for fat PS1s. Check out the worldwide total during the 2000 calendar year. Do you also believe Sony produced ~30M fat PS1s while they also made a similar amount of slims?
Oh look! http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html PS2 has sold 161.88M units!!!

If that's not enough logic for you, look at http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/er.html 
From http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/qfhh7c000000kxze-att/00q4_sony.pdf  we have "Total worldwide production shipments of PlayStation and PS one hardware were 9.31 million

units for the year compared with 18.50 million units for the previous year, resulting in cumulative

shipments of 82.23 million units as of March 31, 2001." which matches the earlier chart exactly for 2001 March 31.
and  from http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/qfhh7c000000kkww-att/01q4_sony.pdf "• Worldwide hardware production shipments:

→ PS 2: 18.07 million units (an increase of 8.87 million units)

→ PS one: 7.40 million units (a decrease of 1.91 million units)" brings us EXACTLY to 89.63M, which is what the worldwide total would be for 2002 March 2002 if it weren't for the typo showing it as 39.63.(It's obvious however by adding the regions together, unless ~50M units were unmade and suddenly remade over a 6 month span)
finally http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/04q4_sony.pdf is the very last mention of PSone shipments.

As Viper1 rightfully keeps stating, Sony is required by law to report these things in their financial statements, so there's simply no way they'd magically gain 27.5M units.

Now kindly accept the facts and Dille was either misquoted or confused.



It sounds perfectly reasonable for Sony to increase production of the PS1 from 2.7 million to 27 million one year before the discontinue it. Just as reasonable as the  tooth fairy giving cash for teeth and the pot of gold filled by leprecauns at the end of the rainbow.



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This thread has a great example of blind faith.



Linkzmax said:
joeorc said:
iHuGi said:

30M in 7 months... loool wtf Ps1 officially the Fastest Selling Console ever :D

they wound down production but is it so hard to think in 12 months time that 28 million unit's were produced for a machine that at the time was already 10 year's old?

esp. for places that are just now getting the PS2 for the very first time..but when did those same countries got their very first playstation 1?


YES! You're talking about the peak production rate that the Wii had when it was selling its fastest, and more than PS2 at any time to date. It's ridiculous to think that much production would be done for a console that was on its very last legs when the PS2 was still popular and the PS3 was nearing launch, not to mention PSPs as well.

Also it's incredible that you think the 102.49M number from http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps_e.html is just for fat PS1s. Check out the worldwide total during the 2000 calendar year. Do you also believe Sony produced ~30M fat PS1s while they also made a similar amount of slims?
Oh look! http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html PS2 has sold 161.88M units!!!

If that's not enough logic for you, look at http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/er.html 
From http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/qfhh7c000000kxze-att/00q4_sony.pdf  we have "Total worldwide production shipments of PlayStation and PS one hardware were 9.31 million

units for the year compared with 18.50 million units for the previous year, resulting in cumulative

shipments of 82.23 million units as of March 31, 2001." which matches the earlier chart exactly for 2001 March 31.
and  from http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/qfhh7c000000kkww-att/01q4_sony.pdf "• Worldwide hardware production shipments:

→ PS 2: 18.07 million units (an increase of 8.87 million units)

→ PS one: 7.40 million units (a decrease of 1.91 million units)" brings us EXACTLY to 89.63M, which is what the worldwide total would be for 2002 March 2002 if it weren't for the typo showing it as 39.63.(It's obvious however by adding the regions together, unless ~50M units were unmade and suddenly remade over a 6 month span)
finally http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/04q4_sony.pdf is the very last mention of PSone shipments.

As Viper1 rightfully keeps stating, Sony is required by law to report these things in their financial statements, so there's simply no way they'd magically gain 27.5M units.

Now kindly accept the facts and Dille was either misquoted or confused.

just because you want to agree with Viper is ok with me, but as for fact's that's once again you and his opinion...PD stated 130 million....the talk about peak production rate and all that is just your Opinion PD stated what he did and it was a full year sony's goes from march to march..which as of march 2005 the PS1 totals was already at 102.49 million sold world wide.so if it was the same why list anything past 2005 if there was no sales?.so Sony is what going to keep production for a full year but not sell anymore unit's?

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Viper1 said:
raptors11 said:
Viper1 said:

And I'm telling you that Sony has 102.49 for years now.  In government records, financial documents, investor reports, press releases, public statements, trade shows, live broadcasts, interviews, promotional material, etc...etc...etc...etc....

And yes, I'm calling out Peter Dille if in fact he did say 130 million and not merely had the text tranposed from 103 million.


Opinion noted.

So how about those 130 million PS1's that have been shipped?

Oh they're fantastic.  I heard Mars was really pleased to get a shipment of 27.5 million of them.

And lucky for Sony they didn't have to pay any income tax on them because the Japanese Financial Services Agency doesn't have jurisdiction over extraterrestrial planetary bodies.

lmao that's pretty funny I'll admit. I just don't see a Sony exec getting something like that wrong even though we've accepted for the last couple years the PS1 sold 102 million.



Kynes said:

This thread has a great example of blind faith.

how is blind faith looking at what's listed?

it could also be said that people have blind faith in this sites tracking service!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Viper1 said:
raptors11 said:
Viper1 said:

And I'm telling you that Sony has 102.49 for years now.  In government records, financial documents, investor reports, press releases, public statements, trade shows, live broadcasts, interviews, promotional material, etc...etc...etc...etc....

And yes, I'm calling out Peter Dille if in fact he did say 130 million and not merely had the text tranposed from 103 million.


Opinion noted.

So how about those 130 million PS1's that have been shipped?

Oh they're fantastic.  I heard Mars was really pleased to get a shipment of 27.5 million of them.

And lucky for Sony they didn't have to pay any income tax on them because the Japanese Financial Services Agency doesn't have jurisdiction over extraterrestrial planetary bodies.

lmao that's pretty funny I'll admit. I just don't see a Sony exec getting something like that wrong even though we've accepted for the last couple years the PS1 sold 102 million.