No, they don't. None of those games have any power and none of them have helped hardware. And none of those brands are near strong.

The whole point of first party software is that it puishes systems. This is true of most of Nintendo's first party offerings. Sony's games have no pushed hardweare and most of their sales are laughable for a first party developer. It's Sony's job to move hardware. This is why Sony can never be on top. They can't push hardware with their games so they rely on third parties to do so. Since 3rd parties have no intention of going exclusive, then Sony has the same games as the competitors, who are probably making their own 1st party games. Sony always has to launch first in order to beat the competition.

The goal is to push hardware not software. The sooner Sony learns this, the better they are.

but your right sony doesnt market there games much and they have said that they dont have that kinda money like others in the industry do and id rather have them use there money to create more killer games like U2 GoW3 GT5 ect..

SONY ONLY fans are a unique bunch they come from all parts of the world and there taste in games is very varied and SONY knows this thats why they keep creating many good games in different genres gen after gen to appeal to these people and keep there business going they dont have time to think about marketing there thinking bout creating the next big thing gen after gen

No, neither of them did. Unless you can show that they did, then you are just spewing BS. In fact, In March, the month of GoW3's release, sales of the PS3 were down (for the US,using the NPD's numbers). So, no, what you are saying is completly wrong.

What you say [the bold] is counter intuative to what happens. Nintendo understands that it's software that drives the system. This is why the Wii, despite slow sales in 2009, rocketed up to 4 million in a month thanks to New Super Mario Bros Wii. The bold is wrong because Nintendo is on top due to Mega series. Sony, on the other hand, relies on price cuts and models to push hardware, which is proven by the fact that PS3 sales slump until a new model is released, then they have a short term gain.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_March_2010

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_February_2010

Sales went down.

September 2009

October 2009

Again, sales went down. If you mention they went up in Novermber, then you'd be forgeting that November is a huge selling month for electronics (amoung other things) and has the biggest shopping day of the year (Black friday). So, no, evidence shows these games are not helping hardware.

The NPD numbers are correct from what I've seen (and they link to the source). Not to mention NPD is more reliable than VGChartz due to being a professional research group.

But in reality, your post said absolutly nothing. Why are my numbers wrong. It shows that sales for the PS3 are not helped by software. You provide no evidence to support your claim, so all I can say is your comments are BS.

1)You have no evidence, so their is no reason to beleive you

2)There was no bump. Sales went down BOTH TIMES. Now you are being delusional.

ok but the 360 cost's the same as the ps3 unless your referring to the arcade which doesn't account for the same numbers the 250gb sales. 

First, it doesn't matter if the data is from this site, but you have to back up your claims with facts. It is only now that you do so, when it should have been 2 or 3 post back. Also note that I'm using US sales on a monthly basis.

When doing sales analysis, you have to look at bigger, not smaller. A week can easily change due to anything. The Wii was up 2% in the week of GoW3's release. Why?

6% actually means that the game did not drive hardware because the change is so small that there weren't a lot of new players buying the system for the game. You could look at any week and find 6, or 5 or 7 precent increases. It does not mean the game drove hardware and proves that the game did not drive hardware like it should because the increase is too small.

EDIT: Here is an example. Notice how the Wii went up 7% but there was no reason for it to go up. While the top sellers were Wii games, they were games released a while back (two of which were Wii Sports). So a variation of 6% means nothing.

I missed the Uncharted thing. My bad.

Again, it was a week comparison. The NPD numbers showed the month was down. November would be up because it's November.Also, how much was the increase from the Slim model and how much was from the game?

Also, the numbers I posted are not inaccurate because they have a source associated with them. Look at the bottem of the page and you can see the news report giving the numbers. I also checked them against other sources.

Why should I answer your questions? They are just trying to shift the argument to something outside of what we are talking about. The are not trying to prove a claim.

The post you made is trying to "chesse," the argument. You can win on facts so you rely to trying other tactics, like having me answer BS question that we botrh know serves nothing to the current argument. You didn't mention the meat of my last post (which is, that there was no increase in hardware because the % increase is too small and a week is not a reliable period of time). Your argument is now trailing off.