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Jadedx said:

Going by vgchartz pre-order numbers the Kinect is killing the move, done, end of story.

I'm gonna have to agree with you.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
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M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?


sigh we are taljking about pre orders aren't we? That's what you talked about. so now go, and find some actual standings in 'current' pre ordeer charts (w/e you can find. amazon US/Uk or Toys R us etc.) Show us what you mean by Kinect is destroying Move according to pre orders. A quick search on n4g I can also find articles about how Move will beat kinect even if I disagree on it. So let's jsut stick your first comment that we are questioning here.

Good try but your attempted argument isn't valid towards me. None of these were from a point of view of a biased news source, let alone the fact that these are reports saying how well Kinect is "pre-ordering", not how well it will do. I've Seen plenty of articles about how Kinect will destroy move, or how kinect is going to fail and the Move succeed, none of these I posted are opinion pieces.

All of them are simply stating that Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, I'm sorry to break that to you. It is one thing to have an opinion, but to pretend to yourself that something doesn't count because you don't want it to is pathetic.

Did you even read the articles YOU posted? they are talking about sales in a few of them, not pre orders.

and here is what YOU said

"

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh..."

So that's what me and darth etc are asking. Go check some pre order cahrts on both Move and Kinect now, and show us what you mean by check now and see how Kinect is destroying Move in those charts, simple. I would like to think you can comprehend such a simple question. So stop the spin, stop the BS and go show us what you meant, bring us charts so we can kill a few seals and agree with you. If you CAN'T then eat some crow and  gtfo

Uh-oh, somebodies getting upset! I'm sorry my knowledge bombs hurt you so much.


lol oh no, what hurts is you avoiding the question like a plague. :D I mean i know you love your console and all but come on now, if you made a statement like that back it up with actual proof, if not it's just a really really sad thing. Please go check the online retailers on NA and UK even, the two strongest markets for xbox. Show me how it's destroying the Move hw pre orders. PLeaSE! If not looks like someones fake bomb blew up in their faces

I'm sorry if simple logic/questions hurt your brain cells or something. I hope you recover and come back with some answers soon cuz I can't wait

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I have some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

oh you silly silly goose you :D you so funneh. I did tell you the only way as of now you can check if what you said was right or wrong. go check the online retailers who have the preorder charts. Amazon etc. They have it by region too so you can check for US and Uk....there ya go ;) some simple help for you to aid you. Not magical tho sorry, I don't take random statements out of my ass for such things. so go on now go go, I'll wait, take your time and prove your point. show us how Kinect is destroying Move when you check pre order cahrts 'now'.

Gosh you're right! I didn't realize that If I checked Amazon, then they would tell me the complete number of pre-orders of of Kinect worldwide... oh.. they don't.

Well how about in America or the Uk?... no?

Well how about any other retailers besides amazon?... no? Again?

Strange. So I guess my Kinect preorder at Gamestop doesn't count?

It is almost like you are assuming that Amazon is where everyone pre-orders. I guess by your train of thought, all the other retailers in the World that sell videogames don't matter. I mean hey, if I can just look at one store and see something, than obviously it means it is the same everywhere.

I asummed the dozens upon dozens of articles about how "Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders" was true, but you're right. I should ignore that and follow your logic, this way I can blindly trust one of the few articles that said "Move is probably gonna outsell Kinect" as fact!

man this is just getting too sad, is it so hard to accept you jumped the gun and said something stupid?

ok letm e say this it was YOU who said if we check the pre orders NOW we will see how Kinect is 'destroying' the Move

yet you now go on a tantrum and say oh nononono I refuse to believe the only charts available like Amazon cuz we are da biazedz

and did you even check Gamestop Best sellers now? You are proving how you were wrong here, not the other way around

I find this too sad to continue, accept it, what you said is complete nonsense, accept that or prove otherwise with some current pre order charts on the Hw and grow up

oh and for the record I have always said Kinect will outsell Move easily in 2010

lol i said oversell instead of outsell lolwut! edit time

I'm not really seeing the sad part, did I miss something? I've got no tantrum or de biazed going on. I'm kind of perplexed as to where you got that from.  But back to what I said, as far as I've read, Kinect is having much better pre-order sales than Move. The fact you can't disprove those articles with and my claim is justification enough. Where are your sales articles about Move? You can't accept anything different than what you want to think. I'm sorry but Kinect is destroying Move in preorders.


No helping it I guess. If you can't even go check all the sites you cited like gamestop, amazon, Toys r Us etc right now to see it for yourself then I can't do anything to help it. Have fun living in your imaginary bubble, at least it will help you stay happy I guess. I have nothing more to say to you :)

Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe PS people buy more things online than XB people? I remember seeing weeks of PS3 being on top @ amazon all the while 360 was beating it in EMEAA.



Jadedx said:

Going by vgchartz pre-order numbers the Kinect is killing the move, done, end of story.

Yeah, and America = World again.

Seriously... I'm not saying that Kinect won't outsell Move (it will probably), but basing that on Americas preorder charts alone is really stupid.



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snfr said:
Jadedx said:

Going by vgchartz pre-order numbers the Kinect is killing the move, done, end of story.

Yeah, and America = World again.

Seriously... I'm not saying that Kinect won't outsell Move (it will probably), but basing that on Americas preorder charts alone is really stupid.

 

Going by the numbers we have no one knows if Kinect is killing Move, done, end of story. Pretty much sums up me MUGEN and jordahns argument, i dont think anyone can confirm otherwise, if someone wants to argue why they "feel" Kinect is destroying move thats fine, but to make blanket claims and argue as fact is just down right silly based on the information at our disposal (not to mention the laughable "proof" of the guy doing so in this thread)



Jadedx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Lazthelost said:
leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?


sigh we are taljking about pre orders aren't we? That's what you talked about. so now go, and find some actual standings in 'current' pre ordeer charts (w/e you can find. amazon US/Uk or Toys R us etc.) Show us what you mean by Kinect is destroying Move according to pre orders. A quick search on n4g I can also find articles about how Move will beat kinect even if I disagree on it. So let's jsut stick your first comment that we are questioning here.

Good try but your attempted argument isn't valid towards me. None of these were from a point of view of a biased news source, let alone the fact that these are reports saying how well Kinect is "pre-ordering", not how well it will do. I've Seen plenty of articles about how Kinect will destroy move, or how kinect is going to fail and the Move succeed, none of these I posted are opinion pieces.

All of them are simply stating that Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, I'm sorry to break that to you. It is one thing to have an opinion, but to pretend to yourself that something doesn't count because you don't want it to is pathetic.

Did you even read the articles YOU posted? they are talking about sales in a few of them, not pre orders.

and here is what YOU said

"

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh..."

So that's what me and darth etc are asking. Go check some pre order cahrts on both Move and Kinect now, and show us what you mean by check now and see how Kinect is destroying Move in those charts, simple. I would like to think you can comprehend such a simple question. So stop the spin, stop the BS and go show us what you meant, bring us charts so we can kill a few seals and agree with you. If you CAN'T then eat some crow and  gtfo

Uh-oh, somebodies getting upset! I'm sorry my knowledge bombs hurt you so much.


lol oh no, what hurts is you avoiding the question like a plague. :D I mean i know you love your console and all but come on now, if you made a statement like that back it up with actual proof, if not it's just a really really sad thing. Please go check the online retailers on NA and UK even, the two strongest markets for xbox. Show me how it's destroying the Move hw pre orders. PLeaSE! If not looks like someones fake bomb blew up in their faces

I'm sorry if simple logic/questions hurt your brain cells or something. I hope you recover and come back with some answers soon cuz I can't wait

Oh silly duckling, you can't turn this around on me. I said Kinect is destroying Move in pre-orders, some one asked me to show how i knew this, and I have some 8 articles that put that idea in my head.

Unfortunately for the sake of your ridiculous desires, I am not a sales Chart. Neither are you. But I love that you asked. If you have these magical charts that disprove me, I'd love to see them. Since I never claimed to have these charts, but you know of their existence, how about you share them with me. I'd love to see the actually preorders worldwide of Kinect and Move. That is unless you don't have them either, and you're pulling it out of your ass... but I don't think you would do such a thing would you?

oh you silly silly goose you :D you so funneh. I did tell you the only way as of now you can check if what you said was right or wrong. go check the online retailers who have the preorder charts. Amazon etc. They have it by region too so you can check for US and Uk....there ya go ;) some simple help for you to aid you. Not magical tho sorry, I don't take random statements out of my ass for such things. so go on now go go, I'll wait, take your time and prove your point. show us how Kinect is destroying Move when you check pre order cahrts 'now'.

Gosh you're right! I didn't realize that If I checked Amazon, then they would tell me the complete number of pre-orders of of Kinect worldwide... oh.. they don't.

Well how about in America or the Uk?... no?

Well how about any other retailers besides amazon?... no? Again?

Strange. So I guess my Kinect preorder at Gamestop doesn't count?

It is almost like you are assuming that Amazon is where everyone pre-orders. I guess by your train of thought, all the other retailers in the World that sell videogames don't matter. I mean hey, if I can just look at one store and see something, than obviously it means it is the same everywhere.

I asummed the dozens upon dozens of articles about how "Kinect is destroying the Move in preorders" was true, but you're right. I should ignore that and follow your logic, this way I can blindly trust one of the few articles that said "Move is probably gonna outsell Kinect" as fact!

man this is just getting too sad, is it so hard to accept you jumped the gun and said something stupid?

ok letm e say this it was YOU who said if we check the pre orders NOW we will see how Kinect is 'destroying' the Move

yet you now go on a tantrum and say oh nononono I refuse to believe the only charts available like Amazon cuz we are da biazedz

and did you even check Gamestop Best sellers now? You are proving how you were wrong here, not the other way around

I find this too sad to continue, accept it, what you said is complete nonsense, accept that or prove otherwise with some current pre order charts on the Hw and grow up

oh and for the record I have always said Kinect will outsell Move easily in 2010

lol i said oversell instead of outsell lolwut! edit time

I'm not really seeing the sad part, did I miss something? I've got no tantrum or de biazed going on. I'm kind of perplexed as to where you got that from.  But back to what I said, as far as I've read, Kinect is having much better pre-order sales than Move. The fact you can't disprove those articles with and my claim is justification enough. Where are your sales articles about Move? You can't accept anything different than what you want to think. I'm sorry but Kinect is destroying Move in preorders.


No helping it I guess. If you can't even go check all the sites you cited like gamestop, amazon, Toys r Us etc right now to see it for yourself then I can't do anything to help it. Have fun living in your imaginary bubble, at least it will help you stay happy I guess. I have nothing more to say to you :)

Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe PS people buy more things online than XB people? I remember seeing weeks of PS3 being on top @ amazon all the while 360 was beating it in EMEAA.

facepalm, again I know you xbox 'people' lol like to spin things but go back to the root of this argument..it was started by saying Kinect is destroying Move in pre orders. So unless you agree with him you are agreeing with us, we did not say anything else otherwise..please understand that basics behind an argument before jumping in on it with random comments



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steverhcp02 said:
snfr said:
Jadedx said:

Going by vgchartz pre-order numbers the Kinect is killing the move, done, end of story.

Yeah, and America = World again.

Seriously... I'm not saying that Kinect won't outsell Move (it will probably), but basing that on Americas preorder charts alone is really stupid.

 

Going by the numbers we have no one knows if Kinect is killing Move, done, end of story. Pretty much sums up me MUGEN and jordahns argument, i dont think anyone can confirm otherwise, if someone wants to argue why they "feel" Kinect is destroying move thats fine, but to make blanket claims and argue as fact is just down right silly based on the information at our disposal (not to mention the laughable "proof" of the guy doing so in this thread)

I couldn't agree more with you. We don't know much about Move's and Kinect's worldwide preorders, so I still don't know why some people want to make us believe that Kinect will definitly destroy Move. Stating opinions as facts seems pretty normal these days for some people...



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snfr said:
steverhcp02 said:
snfr said:
Jadedx said:

Going by vgchartz pre-order numbers the Kinect is killing the move, done, end of story.

Yeah, and America = World again.

Seriously... I'm not saying that Kinect won't outsell Move (it will probably), but basing that on Americas preorder charts alone is really stupid.

 

Going by the numbers we have no one knows if Kinect is killing Move, done, end of story. Pretty much sums up me MUGEN and jordahns argument, i dont think anyone can confirm otherwise, if someone wants to argue why they "feel" Kinect is destroying move thats fine, but to make blanket claims and argue as fact is just down right silly based on the information at our disposal (not to mention the laughable "proof" of the guy doing so in this thread)

I couldn't agree more with you. We don't know much about Move's and Kinect's worldwide preorders, so I still don't know why some people want to make us believe that Kinect will definitly destroy Move. Stating opinions as facts seems pretty normal these days for some people...

Agreed. Whats really crazy is, at least from what im gathering from the active intelligent posters on this forum, even us....how do they say it "Sony Fanboys" are pretty much in agreement Kinect will in all likelihood sell more than Move if not LTD definately YTD.

So im not even really sure where this strange hostility is coming from for no reason from some newer users that just want to grab a bazooka and join the battlefield blindly.



steverhcp02 said:
snfr said:
steverhcp02 said:
snfr said:
Jadedx said:

Going by vgchartz pre-order numbers the Kinect is killing the move, done, end of story.

Yeah, and America = World again.

Seriously... I'm not saying that Kinect won't outsell Move (it will probably), but basing that on Americas preorder charts alone is really stupid.

 

Going by the numbers we have no one knows if Kinect is killing Move, done, end of story. Pretty much sums up me MUGEN and jordahns argument, i dont think anyone can confirm otherwise, if someone wants to argue why they "feel" Kinect is destroying move thats fine, but to make blanket claims and argue as fact is just down right silly based on the information at our disposal (not to mention the laughable "proof" of the guy doing so in this thread)

I couldn't agree more with you. We don't know much about Move's and Kinect's worldwide preorders, so I still don't know why some people want to make us believe that Kinect will definitly destroy Move. Stating opinions as facts seems pretty normal these days for some people...

Agreed. Whats really crazy is, at least from what im gathering from the active intelligent posters on this forum, even us....how do they say it "Sony Fanboys" are pretty much in agreement Kinect will in all likelihood sell more than Move if not LTD definately YTD.

So im not even really sure where this strange hostility is coming from for no reason from some newer users that just want to grab a bazooka and join the battlefield blindly.

Well, I'm pretty much used to being treated as a "Sony Fanboy" just for saying something positive about Sony or something negative about MS or Nintendo. Sony is by far my favourite company and I don't have to be ashamed of that, but for some people it doesn't seem to be possible to like a company without being a fanboy. In the end it all remains an opinion, just like how Move and Kinect will perform.

At your last sentence: I don't know it either, but watching these people argue is sometimes hilarious.



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Lazthelost said:
leo-j said:
Lazthelost said:

Well luckily we can all go look at the preorders and... umm... yep looks like Kinect was/is destroying Move.

 

huh...


what pre orders link me

 

This was when it first started:
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kinect-Pre-Orders-Begin-Outselling-Move/6970

 

This is from our very own preorder article, look at how high Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports are. Both ahead of the only Move title on there, and Kinect still has 10 weeks until launch.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/81775/americas-preorders-chart-28-august-2010-metroid-other-m-jumps/

 

Oh and here is another:
http://news.punchjump.com/blog/2010/07/26/kinect-for-xbox-360-pre-order-sales-no-1-at-toys-r-us/

 

And another:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

 

And some more:
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/30/kinect-pre-orders-on-the-up/

 

And again, ugh so many:
http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/3529-sales-projections-for-microsofts-kinect-gaining-some-ground

 

And some more:
http://www.examiner.com/la-video-game-industry-in-los-angeles/kinect-already-outselling-the-move

 

Here's another one about Move not having the buzz Kinect does:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29864/Analyst_Raises_Kinect_Holiday_Sales_Estimates_To_4M.php

 

etc, etc etc...

 

Do you guys get it yet?

I don't see any pre order figures.. just assumptions that its ganna outsell move.

I want kinect pre order vs move pre order numbers



 

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badgenome said:

"The Kinect" sounds so horrible, and they went and said it about a thousand times. Now I'm all pissed 

They should have realized how shitty the name was when the Kin failed miserably.