Mr Puggsly said:
Your logic is completely lost on me. |
So is yours on what qualifies something as a "Move game", because I thought a "Move game" is a game with Move controls.
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| Mr Puggsly said: MKWii is a Wii game. Wiimote and GC controllers are just options. Hence, Killzone 3 is a PS3 game. It has joystick and Move support. Is it a Move game per se? Nope. If someone told me a title was a Move game I would presume Move is required. If I hear a game has Move support, I naturally presume Move is just an option. Maybe its just context? But in my opinion a true Move title only has Move support. No joysticks. |
I think you're trying to debate that for something to be considered a "Move title" it needs to be "Move only".
To me that makes it a "Move Only" title.
Anything with the option for motion controls that hinders the game in no noticable way to me is a motion game. Just because they decide to give alternate control schemes to broaden the potential target audience shouldn't take away from that fact.
Having played Mario Kart Wii, I can absolutely assure you that it IS in fact a motion controlled title or if you choose to call it, a "Wiimote title". It did come bundled with a wheel did it not?
That alone tells your that your definition is flawed. It was marketed as a Wiimote title.
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Rainbird said:
And I'm debating with you because I think you are wrong. |
Look, I understand where you're coming from.
We both know Move only games are gonna sell poorly. So calling all games with Move support, "Move games" will make software sales for the Move seem better.
I'm just saying a true Move game only support the Move.
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| Euphoria14 said:
Having played Mario Kart Wii, I can absolutely assure you that it IS in fact a motion controlled title or if you choose to call it, a "Wiimote title". It did come bundled with a wheel did it not? |
A fine line between motion control support and motion control required. Hence, I don't perceive it as a motion control game. I perceive it as a game with motion control support.
It came bundled with a wheel because everyone with a Wii owns a Wiimote(s). The motion controls are also part of the gimmick.
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Euphoria14 said:
So is yours on what qualifies something as a "Move game", because I thought a "Move game" is a game with Move controls. |
Well your logic is arguing sales apparently.
My logic is how the game is perceived and whats required.
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Mr Puggsly said:
Well your logic is arguing sales apparently. My logic is how the game is perceived and whats required. |
It was actually a joke to those back on the first and second page on this thread. 
As for the second sentence, the industry disagrees with you on what is "required" to be percieved and/or considered a "Move" and/or "Wiimote" title.
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Mr Puggsly said:
Look, I understand where you're coming from. We both know Move only games are gonna sell poorly. So calling all games with Move support, "Move games" will make software sales for the Move seem better. I'm just saying a true Move game only support the Move.
|
Lol, you think I'm debating this to make the Move look better in regards to sales?
Anyway, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this, I don't seem to swaying your opinion and you're not swaying mine either.
Euphoria14 said:
As for the second sentence, the industry disagrees with you on what is "required" to be percieved and/or considered a "Move" and/or "Wiimote" title. |
Okay, well the joke was completely lost on me.
I don't think the industry came together and formed an ultimate opinion. So I'll ignore that.
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Customer: "Hi, can you show me the way to the Move titles?"
Store Clerk: "Here you go."
Customer: "Ooo, what about those games over there, are they Move titles?"
Store Clerk: "No, they use the Dualshock controller."
Customer: "But it says Move compatible on the box."
Store Clerk: "Sorry, but you only asked for Move titles and that isn't a Move title, regardless of whether or not it can be payed with the Move."
Customer: "Uhhh...."
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| Euphoria14 said: Customer: "Hi, can you show me the way to the Move titles?" Store Clerk: "Here you go." Customer: "Ooo, what about those games over there, are they Move titles?" Store Clerk: "No, they use the Dualshock controller." Customer: "But it says Move compatible on the box." Store Clerk: "Sorry, but you only asked for Move titles and that isn't a Move title, regardless of whether or not it can be payed with the Move." Customer: "Uhhh...."
|
Customer: What games does the Move have?
Store Clerk: Let me show you.
Customer: What the fuck is this?
Store Clerk: These are the Move games.
Customer: I can play most of these with a joystick though.
Store Clerk: Yep!
Customer: Well why wouldn't I just play with the joystick?
Store Clerk: Well its like the Wii... but more precise... and expensive.
Customer: SOLD!
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