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TheBigFatJ on 06 December 2007

mrstickball said:

The Wii doesn't have that ability. "complicated hardware" is absolutely, positively no excuse. The Xbox 360, for all it's "new technology" and hundreds of component makers was churning out 30,000 Xbox 360's within 2 months of sale, per day, and MS could of done whatever they needed to get a few more factories online (however, sales started to drop slowly, so MS never needed it).


I just can't let this one slide.

Microsoft had a stated goal of 3 million units shipped in the first 90 days of availability. According to VGChartz, it took them nearly twice that long -- almost 6 months!.  That's an average of 16,666/day for the first 6 months, even you don't assume there were any pre-launch stockpiles (there were).

Despite the low demand for the Xbox 360, it took them until May-ish to keep their product on shelves. And there is no way you can argue that MS has been able to keep the quality of its components to acceptable levels, much less the level of reliability that Sony and Nintendo enjoy on their current products.



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johnlucas on 06 December 2007
darklich13 said:
mesoteto said:
another person trying to start a flame war---

No, I just want to buy a Wii. I have to vent my frustration somehow.


We feel your pain, darklich13.

Hang on. This kind of success is unprecedented. It's even taking Nintendo by surprise.

One suggestion if you don't mind getting used ones is to go around the forums (especially Kotaku & Joystiq) listening to whiners complain about "hardly turning on their Wii anymore", "there's no games" or "their Wii collecting dust" and offer to relieve them of it on the spot.

If you want new ones become a detective on it & sniff around stores for shipment dates and announcements.

I got lucky last year seeing a notice for a 8AM selling of Wiis for December 6th at Wal-Mart when I was in town paying bills December 5th. I worked nights and it was dead perfect for me to be in town by 6AM the next morning. Had it ever since. Early morning's your best bet. And develop a pattern of figuring out where the shipments are going to be. Make it fun like an Easter Egg hunt.

John Lucas 



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celine on 06 December 2007
mrstickball said:
Actually, Nintendo's shipments for the Wii aren't the fastest-shipping for a system on it's first full Christmas.

The Playstation 2, in a 3 month period, October 2001-December 2001 (it's first full Christmas worldwide, having launched in Feb/Mar 2000 in Japan alone), shipped 8.07 million hardware units, according to VGC.

The Wii, for comparison has sold/shipped 3.2m units in the same period.



This is a false statement MrStickyball.

VGChartz say that PS2 shipped 8.07 million units in 6 months , in the period between october 2000 and march 2001.



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TheBigFatJ on 06 December 2007
celine said:
mrstickball said:
Actually, Nintendo's shipments for the Wii aren't the fastest-shipping for a system on it's first full Christmas.

The Playstation 2, in a 3 month period, October 2001-December 2001 (it's first full Christmas worldwide, having launched in Feb/Mar 2000 in Japan alone), shipped 8.07 million hardware units, according to VGC.

The Wii, for comparison has sold/shipped 3.2m units in the same period.



This is a false statement MrStickyball.

VGChartz say that PS2 shipped 8.07 million units in 6 months , in the period between september 2000 and march 2001.


 There were many false statements in his quote.  I pointed out a couple myself.



darklich13 on 06 December 2007
Smash_Brother said:
I have a girlfriend who has done the retail thing for 7 years, and she observed this...

When a product is available in every shop on every corner everywhere, demand generally falls, but when the supply is just barely below demand, it keeps the demand coming.

Basically, keeping something as the "hot item" has a viral effect: people wanting it stirs other people into wanting it. Like I said, though, if you could get it anywhere, it just wouldn't have the same effect.

Now, I'm not accusing Nintendo of anything here, as I'm readily willing to believe that demand is much higher than supply, but it will benefit them greatly if supply continued to be just below demand.

This is what I'm talking about. This is basic Economics.



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NJ5 on 06 December 2007
rasone77 said:
 

 


That's exactly the kind of thing which can happen if you increase production too fast

 



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totalwar23 on 06 December 2007
darklich13 said:
Smash_Brother said:
I have a girlfriend who has done the retail thing for 7 years, and she observed this...

When a product is available in every shop on every corner everywhere, demand generally falls, but when the supply is just barely below demand, it keeps the demand coming.

Basically, keeping something as the "hot item" has a viral effect: people wanting it stirs other people into wanting it. Like I said, though, if you could get it anywhere, it just wouldn't have the same effect.

Now, I'm not accusing Nintendo of anything here, as I'm readily willing to believe that demand is much higher than supply, but it will benefit them greatly if supply continued to be just below demand.

This is what I'm talking about. This is basic Economics.


 little flaw here. demand here is humongously outstripping supply so Nintendo not producing as much as they can is costing them money because they don't need to keep the supply below the demand to increase demand. it's happening naturally. basic economics here.



DaxIthR on 06 December 2007

www.wiitracker.com

that should help you....a little.



darklich13 on 06 December 2007
totalwar23 said:
darklich13 said:
Smash_Brother said:
I have a girlfriend who has done the retail thing for 7 years, and she observed this...

When a product is available in every shop on every corner everywhere, demand generally falls, but when the supply is just barely below demand, it keeps the demand coming.

Basically, keeping something as the "hot item" has a viral effect: people wanting it stirs other people into wanting it. Like I said, though, if you could get it anywhere, it just wouldn't have the same effect.

Now, I'm not accusing Nintendo of anything here, as I'm readily willing to believe that demand is much higher than supply, but it will benefit them greatly if supply continued to be just below demand.

This is what I'm talking about. This is basic Economics.


little flaw here. demand here is humongously outstripping supply so Nintendo not producing as much as they can is costing them money because they don't need to keep the supply below the demand to increase demand. it's happening naturally. basic economics here.


 IMO Nintendo is making enough Wii to earn a profit that they desire.  If they wanted to meet the demand they could but it would cost them money.  So Nintendo wins and those consumers that are left in the cold without a Wii ( like myself ) suffer.



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mesoteto on 06 December 2007

heres alittle tidbit for....go to a store and stand in line before they open when you know they have a shipent comming---BLAMMMMMMM you got a wii--its not hard to get a wii you just have to work for it

also to those saying they should just cram out as many and as quickly as they can i have only one thing to say, one company tried to do that and got......*RED RINGED*