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Halo_Reach on 06 September 2010

i cant wait to rub it in your face when the 360 beats the ps3 by over 2 million this holiday



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Michael-5 on 07 September 2010
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:

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Well PS3 and 360 both had some good exclusives for 2010, combined sales are about the same, and so are ratings. So many people on this thread think PS3 has had a better 2010 simply because of God of War 3, but Splinter Cell: Conviction got equal ratings, and was a really good game, hard to beleive it was a Tom Clancy title.

Anyway, I agree the Slim effect is dead in Japan, Japan is a lost market for Microsoft, but PS3 generally only gets a little over a million sales annually from that region, so it's not that big of a deal. The slim effect will also probably lose it's edge in EMEAA when GT5 comes out, so in EMEAA PS3 will probably have more sales annually as well. However Americas is still the largest region, one that is masivly dominated by Microsoft. The 360 has already outsold the PS3 3:2 here, with Kinect, Halo Reach, the slim effect, and limited edition bundles of Black Ops and Halo Reach, the 360 i likely to increase that lead.

Annual sales are only 440k apart in favor of PS3, mostly due to sales before the 360 Slim was released. This gap is still dimishing by 60k a week, and with Reach around the corner that sales difference will increase. Until GT5 Sony doesn't have much to offset this, and even then the 360 is likely to outsell the PS3 in Americas since Black Ops and Kinect come out the same week, both comming bundled with the console.

The sales difference may slightly favor PS3 in EMEAA, and severly favor the PS3 in Japan, but in Americas the 360 will either still outsell the PS3 by at least 1-2 million, probably more, and thats enough to make up for the loss of the EMEAA and Japan superiority.

I mean it's fine to believe GT5 will push PS3 consol sales, and retain PS3 superiority for 2010, but if it does the difference will be tiny, and I personally just really doubt it. Reach will push as many consoles, maybe not in EMEAA, but it will push soo many consoles in Americas, that it should still do the same as GT5. With Kinect bundles, the slim effect still working in EMEAA for now, and Americas until next year, Black Ops 360 bundles, and Halo Reach with limited bundles, Microsoft has many more sales boosters.

I respect your opinion that PS3 will outsell the 360 this holiday season, and outsell the 360 for 2010 annual sales, everyone is entited to their own opinion, and you have at least done some research to back up your claims. I just disagree. Neither of us is more right, the year is not done. So until 2011, I can't say you right or wrong, I can simply say my opinion is different, and I stand by my opinion.

Yeah you could be right since Microsoft will crush Sony in America this year but overall I still stand by my opinion as well and say that P.S.3>360 this Holiday.

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*Sound Of Rain on 08 September 2010
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:

(Above Post)

Well PS3 and 360 both had some good exclusives for 2010, combined sales are about the same, and so are ratings. So many people on this thread think PS3 has had a better 2010 simply because of God of War 3, but Splinter Cell: Conviction got equal ratings, and was a really good game, hard to beleive it was a Tom Clancy title.

Anyway, I agree the Slim effect is dead in Japan, Japan is a lost market for Microsoft, but PS3 generally only gets a little over a million sales annually from that region, so it's not that big of a deal. The slim effect will also probably lose it's edge in EMEAA when GT5 comes out, so in EMEAA PS3 will probably have more sales annually as well. However Americas is still the largest region, one that is masivly dominated by Microsoft. The 360 has already outsold the PS3 3:2 here, with Kinect, Halo Reach, the slim effect, and limited edition bundles of Black Ops and Halo Reach, the 360 i likely to increase that lead.

Annual sales are only 440k apart in favor of PS3, mostly due to sales before the 360 Slim was released. This gap is still dimishing by 60k a week, and with Reach around the corner that sales difference will increase. Until GT5 Sony doesn't have much to offset this, and even then the 360 is likely to outsell the PS3 in Americas since Black Ops and Kinect come out the same week, both comming bundled with the console.

The sales difference may slightly favor PS3 in EMEAA, and severly favor the PS3 in Japan, but in Americas the 360 will either still outsell the PS3 by at least 1-2 million, probably more, and thats enough to make up for the loss of the EMEAA and Japan superiority.

I mean it's fine to believe GT5 will push PS3 consol sales, and retain PS3 superiority for 2010, but if it does the difference will be tiny, and I personally just really doubt it. Reach will push as many consoles, maybe not in EMEAA, but it will push soo many consoles in Americas, that it should still do the same as GT5. With Kinect bundles, the slim effect still working in EMEAA for now, and Americas until next year, Black Ops 360 bundles, and Halo Reach with limited bundles, Microsoft has many more sales boosters.

I respect your opinion that PS3 will outsell the 360 this holiday season, and outsell the 360 for 2010 annual sales, everyone is entited to their own opinion, and you have at least done some research to back up your claims. I just disagree. Neither of us is more right, the year is not done. So until 2011, I can't say you right or wrong, I can simply say my opinion is different, and I stand by my opinion.

Yeah you could be right since Microsoft will crush Sony in America this year but overall I still stand by my opinion as well and say that P.S.3>360 this Holiday.

Cool

I seriously think that you are the 1st person on this site ever that I have had a discussion with about different opinions involving sales that I never had a real argument with...this discussion ended very peacefully and we fully respected each others opinions...so good chat and we will see later this year who was right.



*Sound Of Rain on 08 September 2010
Halo_Reach said:

i cant wait to rub it in your face when the 360 beats the ps3 by over 2 million this holiday

I am confident that P.S.3 will beat the 360 this Holiday Worldwide but even if I am wrong I am 100% sure it wouldn't be outsold by 2 Million plus.



Michael-5 on 09 September 2010
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:

(Above Post)

Well PS3 and 360 both had some good exclusives for 2010, combined sales are about the same, and so are ratings. So many people on this thread think PS3 has had a better 2010 simply because of God of War 3, but Splinter Cell: Conviction got equal ratings, and was a really good game, hard to beleive it was a Tom Clancy title.

Anyway, I agree the Slim effect is dead in Japan, Japan is a lost market for Microsoft, but PS3 generally only gets a little over a million sales annually from that region, so it's not that big of a deal. The slim effect will also probably lose it's edge in EMEAA when GT5 comes out, so in EMEAA PS3 will probably have more sales annually as well. However Americas is still the largest region, one that is masivly dominated by Microsoft. The 360 has already outsold the PS3 3:2 here, with Kinect, Halo Reach, the slim effect, and limited edition bundles of Black Ops and Halo Reach, the 360 i likely to increase that lead.

Annual sales are only 440k apart in favor of PS3, mostly due to sales before the 360 Slim was released. This gap is still dimishing by 60k a week, and with Reach around the corner that sales difference will increase. Until GT5 Sony doesn't have much to offset this, and even then the 360 is likely to outsell the PS3 in Americas since Black Ops and Kinect come out the same week, both comming bundled with the console.

The sales difference may slightly favor PS3 in EMEAA, and severly favor the PS3 in Japan, but in Americas the 360 will either still outsell the PS3 by at least 1-2 million, probably more, and thats enough to make up for the loss of the EMEAA and Japan superiority.

I mean it's fine to believe GT5 will push PS3 consol sales, and retain PS3 superiority for 2010, but if it does the difference will be tiny, and I personally just really doubt it. Reach will push as many consoles, maybe not in EMEAA, but it will push soo many consoles in Americas, that it should still do the same as GT5. With Kinect bundles, the slim effect still working in EMEAA for now, and Americas until next year, Black Ops 360 bundles, and Halo Reach with limited bundles, Microsoft has many more sales boosters.

I respect your opinion that PS3 will outsell the 360 this holiday season, and outsell the 360 for 2010 annual sales, everyone is entited to their own opinion, and you have at least done some research to back up your claims. I just disagree. Neither of us is more right, the year is not done. So until 2011, I can't say you right or wrong, I can simply say my opinion is different, and I stand by my opinion.

Yeah you could be right since Microsoft will crush Sony in America this year but overall I still stand by my opinion as well and say that P.S.3>360 this Holiday.

Cool

I seriously think that you are the 1st person on this site ever that I have had a discussion with about different opinions involving sales that I never had a real argument with...this discussion ended very peacefully and we fully respected each others opinions...so good chat and we will see later this year who was right.

Well I have my opinion, and you have yours and you clearly have done your research to back up your opinion. I may disagree, but none of us are garenteed to be right. For all we know PS3 could tie 360 in total sales. I also liked how this ended, most people are just too stuck up to realize that their opinion is subjective.



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Michael-5 on 09 September 2010
*Sound Of Rain said:
Halo_Reach said:

i cant wait to rub it in your face when the 360 beats the ps3 by over 2 million this holiday

I am confident that P.S.3 will beat the 360 this Holiday Worldwide but even if I am wrong I am 100% sure it wouldn't be outsold by 2 Million plus.

I can agree on that, if the 360 outsells the PS3 it will most likely be by less then 2 million. PS3 is ahead in annual sales, and has a great fall line-up with GT5 and Move. I don't think Halo, Kinect, and the Slim Effect can make up for that. LBP 2 and Fable I often ignore because I think they will have an equal effect on sales for both consoles.

It will be an intersting fall, as sales could go both ways.



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