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Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

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Nintendo has already said that the Vitality Sensor will be out before March 2011 ends and so it could make it out for Holiday 2010.

Anyway the P.S.3 and 360 will be hard to predict this year and while America is the largest market it still isn't the only market and I expect a few 100K weeks for P.S.3 in Japan alone and with Others I think P.S.3 can outsell the 360 by a decent amount but not in the same way 360 outsells P.S.3 in America but with Japan as well Sony could take #2 this Holiday...I expect G.T.5 to be as big in Others as Halo Reach will be in America. I do agree though that Kinect should be bigger in both Others and America but I still don't think it will do to much do to price.

See if you follow GT5 sales, they aren't massive at launch. I don't think GT5 will affect EMEAA and Japan as Halo does the Americas immediatly. GT5 will push help push consoles, and sell units in 2011, but in the month or two it has in 2010, it just won't be as heavy of a hitter as Halo.

For EMEAA, I'm willing to admit that the PS3 may outsell the 360, but it will be a close call, and Japan will help PS3 sales, but it's such a small market, I mean there is only 5-6 million total PS3's there. Americas is the largest market, and worldwide, I really doubt PS3 will outsell 360 this year simply because I think 360 will dominate Americas sales, and at least come close to tie PS3 EMEAA sales. I mean 360 most likely has dominant sales until Novemeber (GT5) in EMEAA, and PS3 will rebound in Novemeber and December, but even so it won't get that much more sales then 360.

Thats why I said EMEAA is iffy, it's debatable. I'm pro-360 for EMEAA simply because I don't think GT5 will be enough. Sales for GT5 will pick up slowly (at absolute best GT5 gets 5 million WW by the end of the year, more realistically 4 million, so thats like what 2-3 million EMEAA?), and Kinect will budge 360 sales a significant amount (maybe 1 million units sold, 200-300k from bundles in EMEAA). Halo still has a decent push in 360 sales in EMEAA largly thanks to UK, and the Slim Effect will stay until end of October. PS3 will outsell the 360 in November, but I don't know by how much, or if it will balance sales from 360's superiority from September/October.

Anyway, as for Wii, I have been hearing about this game called Wii Relax. Since most Wii titles franchises come with a peripheral, I am betting that will be the game that uses the Vitality sensor. However, it's not like Nintendo to surprise announce any games, it feels like thats a 2011 title. However Nintendo said before March 2011, so who knows. Didn't Wii Fit come out in Spring? Regardless I agree with you that Wii will dominate holidays sales. 360 may come close in specific regions (like US, or UK), but in general, Wii will own. Maybe not by as much as before, but I expect the Wii to sell 16 million units by the end of the year (it's at 8 now).

Yeah but I am not counting September or October...I am only counting November and December for Holiday sales and maybe the last week or 2 of October(Whatever the last 10 weeks are) Anyway nobody can know at this point for sure even though I still see P.S.3 ahead this Holiday...but at least we agree that Wii will win for sure.

Well I respectfully disagree, even if were just considering the last 10 weeks, I still think the 360 will come ontop. Regardless we agree on the Wii comming out on top.

P.S. I always consider September-October Holidays because in September software and hardware sales begin to pick up, and a lot of holiday titles begin to come out. Halo and Move are two big games for the holidays of 2010 to me. I mean in December, hardly any games are released, all the big games release from September-November, mostly in Novemeber.

However technically Holidays are the last 10 weeks of the year. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting fall.

P.S. Year end total sales, who do you think will sell better? 360 or PS3? PS3 is ahead by i think a little over 400k, but the 360 still has momentum from the Slim. I vote 360, but not by much, maybe a million at best.

P.S.3 is  ahead by 400K and should beat 360 this Holiday but even if it doesn't I don't think it can catch the 400K up so P.S.3 wins the year. I also see the 360 coming in #3 this Gen in the long run.



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*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

(Above Post)

Nintendo has already said that the Vitality Sensor will be out before March 2011 ends and so it could make it out for Holiday 2010.

Anyway the P.S.3 and 360 will be hard to predict this year and while America is the largest market it still isn't the only market and I expect a few 100K weeks for P.S.3 in Japan alone and with Others I think P.S.3 can outsell the 360 by a decent amount but not in the same way 360 outsells P.S.3 in America but with Japan as well Sony could take #2 this Holiday...I expect G.T.5 to be as big in Others as Halo Reach will be in America. I do agree though that Kinect should be bigger in both Others and America but I still don't think it will do to much do to price.

See if you follow GT5 sales, they aren't massive at launch. I don't think GT5 will affect EMEAA and Japan as Halo does the Americas immediatly. GT5 will push help push consoles, and sell units in 2011, but in the month or two it has in 2010, it just won't be as heavy of a hitter as Halo.

For EMEAA, I'm willing to admit that the PS3 may outsell the 360, but it will be a close call, and Japan will help PS3 sales, but it's such a small market, I mean there is only 5-6 million total PS3's there. Americas is the largest market, and worldwide, I really doubt PS3 will outsell 360 this year simply because I think 360 will dominate Americas sales, and at least come close to tie PS3 EMEAA sales. I mean 360 most likely has dominant sales until Novemeber (GT5) in EMEAA, and PS3 will rebound in Novemeber and December, but even so it won't get that much more sales then 360.

Thats why I said EMEAA is iffy, it's debatable. I'm pro-360 for EMEAA simply because I don't think GT5 will be enough. Sales for GT5 will pick up slowly (at absolute best GT5 gets 5 million WW by the end of the year, more realistically 4 million, so thats like what 2-3 million EMEAA?), and Kinect will budge 360 sales a significant amount (maybe 1 million units sold, 200-300k from bundles in EMEAA). Halo still has a decent push in 360 sales in EMEAA largly thanks to UK, and the Slim Effect will stay until end of October. PS3 will outsell the 360 in November, but I don't know by how much, or if it will balance sales from 360's superiority from September/October.

Anyway, as for Wii, I have been hearing about this game called Wii Relax. Since most Wii titles franchises come with a peripheral, I am betting that will be the game that uses the Vitality sensor. However, it's not like Nintendo to surprise announce any games, it feels like thats a 2011 title. However Nintendo said before March 2011, so who knows. Didn't Wii Fit come out in Spring? Regardless I agree with you that Wii will dominate holidays sales. 360 may come close in specific regions (like US, or UK), but in general, Wii will own. Maybe not by as much as before, but I expect the Wii to sell 16 million units by the end of the year (it's at 8 now).

Yeah but I am not counting September or October...I am only counting November and December for Holiday sales and maybe the last week or 2 of October(Whatever the last 10 weeks are) Anyway nobody can know at this point for sure even though I still see P.S.3 ahead this Holiday...but at least we agree that Wii will win for sure.

Well I respectfully disagree, even if were just considering the last 10 weeks, I still think the 360 will come ontop. Regardless we agree on the Wii comming out on top.

P.S. I always consider September-October Holidays because in September software and hardware sales begin to pick up, and a lot of holiday titles begin to come out. Halo and Move are two big games for the holidays of 2010 to me. I mean in December, hardly any games are released, all the big games release from September-November, mostly in Novemeber.

However technically Holidays are the last 10 weeks of the year. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting fall.

P.S. Year end total sales, who do you think will sell better? 360 or PS3? PS3 is ahead by i think a little over 400k, but the 360 still has momentum from the Slim. I vote 360, but not by much, maybe a million at best.

P.S.3 is  ahead by 400K and should beat 360 this Holiday but even if it doesn't I don't think it can catch the 400K up so P.S.3 wins the year. I also see the 360 coming in #3 this Gen in the long run.

I disagree, I think 360 will beat the PS3 this holiday season by over 440k, so it will get more year end total sales.

I also really doubt that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in the long term life of both consoles. In the 4 years since PS3's launch the difference from the number of consoles sold grew in favor of 360 (From 5.3 million to 8.1 million). The only significant period where PS3 outsold the 360 was after the PS3 slim was released, and that only brought the difference back to the initial difference. Now the 360 has a Slim, Sony has no more cards to play. PS3 has Japan, and most likely EMEAA by a small margin, but the difference in consoles in Americas will more then suffice that difference. Even before the 360 slim launched, the 360 old SKU was outselling the PS3 Slim here, and in the UK.



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Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

(Above Post)

Nintendo has already said that the Vitality Sensor will be out before March 2011 ends and so it could make it out for Holiday 2010.

Anyway the P.S.3 and 360 will be hard to predict this year and while America is the largest market it still isn't the only market and I expect a few 100K weeks for P.S.3 in Japan alone and with Others I think P.S.3 can outsell the 360 by a decent amount but not in the same way 360 outsells P.S.3 in America but with Japan as well Sony could take #2 this Holiday...I expect G.T.5 to be as big in Others as Halo Reach will be in America. I do agree though that Kinect should be bigger in both Others and America but I still don't think it will do to much do to price.

See if you follow GT5 sales, they aren't massive at launch. I don't think GT5 will affect EMEAA and Japan as Halo does the Americas immediatly. GT5 will push help push consoles, and sell units in 2011, but in the month or two it has in 2010, it just won't be as heavy of a hitter as Halo.

For EMEAA, I'm willing to admit that the PS3 may outsell the 360, but it will be a close call, and Japan will help PS3 sales, but it's such a small market, I mean there is only 5-6 million total PS3's there. Americas is the largest market, and worldwide, I really doubt PS3 will outsell 360 this year simply because I think 360 will dominate Americas sales, and at least come close to tie PS3 EMEAA sales. I mean 360 most likely has dominant sales until Novemeber (GT5) in EMEAA, and PS3 will rebound in Novemeber and December, but even so it won't get that much more sales then 360.

Thats why I said EMEAA is iffy, it's debatable. I'm pro-360 for EMEAA simply because I don't think GT5 will be enough. Sales for GT5 will pick up slowly (at absolute best GT5 gets 5 million WW by the end of the year, more realistically 4 million, so thats like what 2-3 million EMEAA?), and Kinect will budge 360 sales a significant amount (maybe 1 million units sold, 200-300k from bundles in EMEAA). Halo still has a decent push in 360 sales in EMEAA largly thanks to UK, and the Slim Effect will stay until end of October. PS3 will outsell the 360 in November, but I don't know by how much, or if it will balance sales from 360's superiority from September/October.

Anyway, as for Wii, I have been hearing about this game called Wii Relax. Since most Wii titles franchises come with a peripheral, I am betting that will be the game that uses the Vitality sensor. However, it's not like Nintendo to surprise announce any games, it feels like thats a 2011 title. However Nintendo said before March 2011, so who knows. Didn't Wii Fit come out in Spring? Regardless I agree with you that Wii will dominate holidays sales. 360 may come close in specific regions (like US, or UK), but in general, Wii will own. Maybe not by as much as before, but I expect the Wii to sell 16 million units by the end of the year (it's at 8 now).

Yeah but I am not counting September or October...I am only counting November and December for Holiday sales and maybe the last week or 2 of October(Whatever the last 10 weeks are) Anyway nobody can know at this point for sure even though I still see P.S.3 ahead this Holiday...but at least we agree that Wii will win for sure.

Well I respectfully disagree, even if were just considering the last 10 weeks, I still think the 360 will come ontop. Regardless we agree on the Wii comming out on top.

P.S. I always consider September-October Holidays because in September software and hardware sales begin to pick up, and a lot of holiday titles begin to come out. Halo and Move are two big games for the holidays of 2010 to me. I mean in December, hardly any games are released, all the big games release from September-November, mostly in Novemeber.

However technically Holidays are the last 10 weeks of the year. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting fall.

P.S. Year end total sales, who do you think will sell better? 360 or PS3? PS3 is ahead by i think a little over 400k, but the 360 still has momentum from the Slim. I vote 360, but not by much, maybe a million at best.

P.S.3 is  ahead by 400K and should beat 360 this Holiday but even if it doesn't I don't think it can catch the 400K up so P.S.3 wins the year. I also see the 360 coming in #3 this Gen in the long run.

I disagree, I think 360 will beat the PS3 this holiday season by over 440k, so it will get more year end total sales.

I also really doubt that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in the long term life of both consoles. In the 4 years since PS3's launch the difference from the number of consoles sold grew in favor of 360 (From 5.3 million to 8.1 million). The only significant period where PS3 outsold the 360 was after the PS3 slim was released, and that only brought the difference back to the initial difference. Now the 360 has a Slim, Sony has no more cards to play. PS3 has Japan, and most likely EMEAA by a small margin, but the difference in consoles in Americas will more then suffice that difference. Even before the 360 slim launched, the 360 old SKU was outselling the PS3 Slim here, and in the UK.

Halo Reach will only effect America a lot while G.T.5 will effect all 3 regions by a good amount...Plus besides for Halo Reach and Kinect Microsoft didn't have many big games this year while Sony has had a good amount all year.



360 will win EMEAA and Americas over Ps3... Will lose Japan... Wii will win in every markets but 360 will be close to it in Americas.



*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

(Above Post)

Nintendo has already said that the Vitality Sensor will be out before March 2011 ends and so it could make it out for Holiday 2010.

Anyway the P.S.3 and 360 will be hard to predict this year and while America is the largest market it still isn't the only market and I expect a few 100K weeks for P.S.3 in Japan alone and with Others I think P.S.3 can outsell the 360 by a decent amount but not in the same way 360 outsells P.S.3 in America but with Japan as well Sony could take #2 this Holiday...I expect G.T.5 to be as big in Others as Halo Reach will be in America. I do agree though that Kinect should be bigger in both Others and America but I still don't think it will do to much do to price.

See if you follow GT5 sales, they aren't massive at launch. I don't think GT5 will affect EMEAA and Japan as Halo does the Americas immediatly. GT5 will push help push consoles, and sell units in 2011, but in the month or two it has in 2010, it just won't be as heavy of a hitter as Halo.

For EMEAA, I'm willing to admit that the PS3 may outsell the 360, but it will be a close call, and Japan will help PS3 sales, but it's such a small market, I mean there is only 5-6 million total PS3's there. Americas is the largest market, and worldwide, I really doubt PS3 will outsell 360 this year simply because I think 360 will dominate Americas sales, and at least come close to tie PS3 EMEAA sales. I mean 360 most likely has dominant sales until Novemeber (GT5) in EMEAA, and PS3 will rebound in Novemeber and December, but even so it won't get that much more sales then 360.

Thats why I said EMEAA is iffy, it's debatable. I'm pro-360 for EMEAA simply because I don't think GT5 will be enough. Sales for GT5 will pick up slowly (at absolute best GT5 gets 5 million WW by the end of the year, more realistically 4 million, so thats like what 2-3 million EMEAA?), and Kinect will budge 360 sales a significant amount (maybe 1 million units sold, 200-300k from bundles in EMEAA). Halo still has a decent push in 360 sales in EMEAA largly thanks to UK, and the Slim Effect will stay until end of October. PS3 will outsell the 360 in November, but I don't know by how much, or if it will balance sales from 360's superiority from September/October.

Anyway, as for Wii, I have been hearing about this game called Wii Relax. Since most Wii titles franchises come with a peripheral, I am betting that will be the game that uses the Vitality sensor. However, it's not like Nintendo to surprise announce any games, it feels like thats a 2011 title. However Nintendo said before March 2011, so who knows. Didn't Wii Fit come out in Spring? Regardless I agree with you that Wii will dominate holidays sales. 360 may come close in specific regions (like US, or UK), but in general, Wii will own. Maybe not by as much as before, but I expect the Wii to sell 16 million units by the end of the year (it's at 8 now).

Yeah but I am not counting September or October...I am only counting November and December for Holiday sales and maybe the last week or 2 of October(Whatever the last 10 weeks are) Anyway nobody can know at this point for sure even though I still see P.S.3 ahead this Holiday...but at least we agree that Wii will win for sure.

Well I respectfully disagree, even if were just considering the last 10 weeks, I still think the 360 will come ontop. Regardless we agree on the Wii comming out on top.

P.S. I always consider September-October Holidays because in September software and hardware sales begin to pick up, and a lot of holiday titles begin to come out. Halo and Move are two big games for the holidays of 2010 to me. I mean in December, hardly any games are released, all the big games release from September-November, mostly in Novemeber.

However technically Holidays are the last 10 weeks of the year. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting fall.

P.S. Year end total sales, who do you think will sell better? 360 or PS3? PS3 is ahead by i think a little over 400k, but the 360 still has momentum from the Slim. I vote 360, but not by much, maybe a million at best.

P.S.3 is  ahead by 400K and should beat 360 this Holiday but even if it doesn't I don't think it can catch the 400K up so P.S.3 wins the year. I also see the 360 coming in #3 this Gen in the long run.

I disagree, I think 360 will beat the PS3 this holiday season by over 440k, so it will get more year end total sales.

I also really doubt that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in the long term life of both consoles. In the 4 years since PS3's launch the difference from the number of consoles sold grew in favor of 360 (From 5.3 million to 8.1 million). The only significant period where PS3 outsold the 360 was after the PS3 slim was released, and that only brought the difference back to the initial difference. Now the 360 has a Slim, Sony has no more cards to play. PS3 has Japan, and most likely EMEAA by a small margin, but the difference in consoles in Americas will more then suffice that difference. Even before the 360 slim launched, the 360 old SKU was outselling the PS3 Slim here, and in the UK.

Halo Reach will only effect America a lot while G.T.5 will effect all 3 regions by a good amount...Plus besides for Halo Reach and Kinect Microsoft didn't have many big games this year while Sony has had a good amount all year.

Well I just made a thread analysing Halo sales, and Halo games sell a lot better then Pre-orders because most people buy it off the shelf. No doubt GT5 will sell well, and push roughly as many consoles as Halo: Reach, but for fall 360 also has the Slim effect and Kinect. Move won't be that big.

Also 360 had many good games for 2010. Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Metro 2033, and Mass Effect 2 were the big ones. PS3 had Heavy Rain, God of War 3, MAG, ModNation Racers, and White Knight Chronicles. Please lets not debate the quality of HD console exclusives, everyone has their own preferences.



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Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

(Above Post)

Nintendo has already said that the Vitality Sensor will be out before March 2011 ends and so it could make it out for Holiday 2010.

Anyway the P.S.3 and 360 will be hard to predict this year and while America is the largest market it still isn't the only market and I expect a few 100K weeks for P.S.3 in Japan alone and with Others I think P.S.3 can outsell the 360 by a decent amount but not in the same way 360 outsells P.S.3 in America but with Japan as well Sony could take #2 this Holiday...I expect G.T.5 to be as big in Others as Halo Reach will be in America. I do agree though that Kinect should be bigger in both Others and America but I still don't think it will do to much do to price.

See if you follow GT5 sales, they aren't massive at launch. I don't think GT5 will affect EMEAA and Japan as Halo does the Americas immediatly. GT5 will push help push consoles, and sell units in 2011, but in the month or two it has in 2010, it just won't be as heavy of a hitter as Halo.

For EMEAA, I'm willing to admit that the PS3 may outsell the 360, but it will be a close call, and Japan will help PS3 sales, but it's such a small market, I mean there is only 5-6 million total PS3's there. Americas is the largest market, and worldwide, I really doubt PS3 will outsell 360 this year simply because I think 360 will dominate Americas sales, and at least come close to tie PS3 EMEAA sales. I mean 360 most likely has dominant sales until Novemeber (GT5) in EMEAA, and PS3 will rebound in Novemeber and December, but even so it won't get that much more sales then 360.

Thats why I said EMEAA is iffy, it's debatable. I'm pro-360 for EMEAA simply because I don't think GT5 will be enough. Sales for GT5 will pick up slowly (at absolute best GT5 gets 5 million WW by the end of the year, more realistically 4 million, so thats like what 2-3 million EMEAA?), and Kinect will budge 360 sales a significant amount (maybe 1 million units sold, 200-300k from bundles in EMEAA). Halo still has a decent push in 360 sales in EMEAA largly thanks to UK, and the Slim Effect will stay until end of October. PS3 will outsell the 360 in November, but I don't know by how much, or if it will balance sales from 360's superiority from September/October.

Anyway, as for Wii, I have been hearing about this game called Wii Relax. Since most Wii titles franchises come with a peripheral, I am betting that will be the game that uses the Vitality sensor. However, it's not like Nintendo to surprise announce any games, it feels like thats a 2011 title. However Nintendo said before March 2011, so who knows. Didn't Wii Fit come out in Spring? Regardless I agree with you that Wii will dominate holidays sales. 360 may come close in specific regions (like US, or UK), but in general, Wii will own. Maybe not by as much as before, but I expect the Wii to sell 16 million units by the end of the year (it's at 8 now).

Yeah but I am not counting September or October...I am only counting November and December for Holiday sales and maybe the last week or 2 of October(Whatever the last 10 weeks are) Anyway nobody can know at this point for sure even though I still see P.S.3 ahead this Holiday...but at least we agree that Wii will win for sure.

Well I respectfully disagree, even if were just considering the last 10 weeks, I still think the 360 will come ontop. Regardless we agree on the Wii comming out on top.

P.S. I always consider September-October Holidays because in September software and hardware sales begin to pick up, and a lot of holiday titles begin to come out. Halo and Move are two big games for the holidays of 2010 to me. I mean in December, hardly any games are released, all the big games release from September-November, mostly in Novemeber.

However technically Holidays are the last 10 weeks of the year. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting fall.

P.S. Year end total sales, who do you think will sell better? 360 or PS3? PS3 is ahead by i think a little over 400k, but the 360 still has momentum from the Slim. I vote 360, but not by much, maybe a million at best.

P.S.3 is  ahead by 400K and should beat 360 this Holiday but even if it doesn't I don't think it can catch the 400K up so P.S.3 wins the year. I also see the 360 coming in #3 this Gen in the long run.

I disagree, I think 360 will beat the PS3 this holiday season by over 440k, so it will get more year end total sales.

I also really doubt that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in the long term life of both consoles. In the 4 years since PS3's launch the difference from the number of consoles sold grew in favor of 360 (From 5.3 million to 8.1 million). The only significant period where PS3 outsold the 360 was after the PS3 slim was released, and that only brought the difference back to the initial difference. Now the 360 has a Slim, Sony has no more cards to play. PS3 has Japan, and most likely EMEAA by a small margin, but the difference in consoles in Americas will more then suffice that difference. Even before the 360 slim launched, the 360 old SKU was outselling the PS3 Slim here, and in the UK.

Halo Reach will only effect America a lot while G.T.5 will effect all 3 regions by a good amount...Plus besides for Halo Reach and Kinect Microsoft didn't have many big games this year while Sony has had a good amount all year.

Well I just made a thread analysing Halo sales, and Halo games sell a lot better then Pre-orders because most people buy it off the shelf. No doubt GT5 will sell well, and push roughly as many consoles as Halo: Reach, but for fall 360 also has the Slim effect and Kinect. Move won't be that big.

Also 360 had many good games for 2010. Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Metro 2033, and Mass Effect 2 were the big ones. PS3 had Heavy Rain, God of War 3, MAG, ModNation Racers, and White Knight Chronicles. Please lets not debate the quality of HD console exclusives, everyone has their own preferences.

Oh Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like that I meant that 1st Party games are the ones that are system sellers most of the time and I thought Sony published/Released more games than Microsoft this year...and that could have some effect.  Also I don't think the Slim effect will last much longer in Others and it has already died in Japan and I don't expect the Slim Arcade to do much in Japan.



*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Michael-5 said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

(Above Post)

Nintendo has already said that the Vitality Sensor will be out before March 2011 ends and so it could make it out for Holiday 2010.

Anyway the P.S.3 and 360 will be hard to predict this year and while America is the largest market it still isn't the only market and I expect a few 100K weeks for P.S.3 in Japan alone and with Others I think P.S.3 can outsell the 360 by a decent amount but not in the same way 360 outsells P.S.3 in America but with Japan as well Sony could take #2 this Holiday...I expect G.T.5 to be as big in Others as Halo Reach will be in America. I do agree though that Kinect should be bigger in both Others and America but I still don't think it will do to much do to price.

See if you follow GT5 sales, they aren't massive at launch. I don't think GT5 will affect EMEAA and Japan as Halo does the Americas immediatly. GT5 will push help push consoles, and sell units in 2011, but in the month or two it has in 2010, it just won't be as heavy of a hitter as Halo.

For EMEAA, I'm willing to admit that the PS3 may outsell the 360, but it will be a close call, and Japan will help PS3 sales, but it's such a small market, I mean there is only 5-6 million total PS3's there. Americas is the largest market, and worldwide, I really doubt PS3 will outsell 360 this year simply because I think 360 will dominate Americas sales, and at least come close to tie PS3 EMEAA sales. I mean 360 most likely has dominant sales until Novemeber (GT5) in EMEAA, and PS3 will rebound in Novemeber and December, but even so it won't get that much more sales then 360.

Thats why I said EMEAA is iffy, it's debatable. I'm pro-360 for EMEAA simply because I don't think GT5 will be enough. Sales for GT5 will pick up slowly (at absolute best GT5 gets 5 million WW by the end of the year, more realistically 4 million, so thats like what 2-3 million EMEAA?), and Kinect will budge 360 sales a significant amount (maybe 1 million units sold, 200-300k from bundles in EMEAA). Halo still has a decent push in 360 sales in EMEAA largly thanks to UK, and the Slim Effect will stay until end of October. PS3 will outsell the 360 in November, but I don't know by how much, or if it will balance sales from 360's superiority from September/October.

Anyway, as for Wii, I have been hearing about this game called Wii Relax. Since most Wii titles franchises come with a peripheral, I am betting that will be the game that uses the Vitality sensor. However, it's not like Nintendo to surprise announce any games, it feels like thats a 2011 title. However Nintendo said before March 2011, so who knows. Didn't Wii Fit come out in Spring? Regardless I agree with you that Wii will dominate holidays sales. 360 may come close in specific regions (like US, or UK), but in general, Wii will own. Maybe not by as much as before, but I expect the Wii to sell 16 million units by the end of the year (it's at 8 now).

Yeah but I am not counting September or October...I am only counting November and December for Holiday sales and maybe the last week or 2 of October(Whatever the last 10 weeks are) Anyway nobody can know at this point for sure even though I still see P.S.3 ahead this Holiday...but at least we agree that Wii will win for sure.

Well I respectfully disagree, even if were just considering the last 10 weeks, I still think the 360 will come ontop. Regardless we agree on the Wii comming out on top.

P.S. I always consider September-October Holidays because in September software and hardware sales begin to pick up, and a lot of holiday titles begin to come out. Halo and Move are two big games for the holidays of 2010 to me. I mean in December, hardly any games are released, all the big games release from September-November, mostly in Novemeber.

However technically Holidays are the last 10 weeks of the year. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting fall.

P.S. Year end total sales, who do you think will sell better? 360 or PS3? PS3 is ahead by i think a little over 400k, but the 360 still has momentum from the Slim. I vote 360, but not by much, maybe a million at best.

P.S.3 is  ahead by 400K and should beat 360 this Holiday but even if it doesn't I don't think it can catch the 400K up so P.S.3 wins the year. I also see the 360 coming in #3 this Gen in the long run.

I disagree, I think 360 will beat the PS3 this holiday season by over 440k, so it will get more year end total sales.

I also really doubt that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in the long term life of both consoles. In the 4 years since PS3's launch the difference from the number of consoles sold grew in favor of 360 (From 5.3 million to 8.1 million). The only significant period where PS3 outsold the 360 was after the PS3 slim was released, and that only brought the difference back to the initial difference. Now the 360 has a Slim, Sony has no more cards to play. PS3 has Japan, and most likely EMEAA by a small margin, but the difference in consoles in Americas will more then suffice that difference. Even before the 360 slim launched, the 360 old SKU was outselling the PS3 Slim here, and in the UK.

Halo Reach will only effect America a lot while G.T.5 will effect all 3 regions by a good amount...Plus besides for Halo Reach and Kinect Microsoft didn't have many big games this year while Sony has had a good amount all year.

Well I just made a thread analysing Halo sales, and Halo games sell a lot better then Pre-orders because most people buy it off the shelf. No doubt GT5 will sell well, and push roughly as many consoles as Halo: Reach, but for fall 360 also has the Slim effect and Kinect. Move won't be that big.

Also 360 had many good games for 2010. Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Metro 2033, and Mass Effect 2 were the big ones. PS3 had Heavy Rain, God of War 3, MAG, ModNation Racers, and White Knight Chronicles. Please lets not debate the quality of HD console exclusives, everyone has their own preferences.

Oh Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like that I meant that 1st Party games are the ones that are system sellers most of the time and I thought Sony published/Released more games than Microsoft this year...and that could have some effect.  Also I don't think the Slim effect will last much longer in Others and it has already died in Japan and I don't expect the Slim Arcade to do much in Japan.

Do u want to compare Xbox Brand in others vs Japan ?? oh god people these days... haha



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Nintendo has already said that the Vitality Sensor will be out before March 2011 ends and so it could make it out for Holiday 2010.

Anyway the P.S.3 and 360 will be hard to predict this year and while America is the largest market it still isn't the only market and I expect a few 100K weeks for P.S.3 in Japan alone and with Others I think P.S.3 can outsell the 360 by a decent amount but not in the same way 360 outsells P.S.3 in America but with Japan as well Sony could take #2 this Holiday...I expect G.T.5 to be as big in Others as Halo Reach will be in America. I do agree though that Kinect should be bigger in both Others and America but I still don't think it will do to much do to price.

See if you follow GT5 sales, they aren't massive at launch. I don't think GT5 will affect EMEAA and Japan as Halo does the Americas immediatly. GT5 will push help push consoles, and sell units in 2011, but in the month or two it has in 2010, it just won't be as heavy of a hitter as Halo.

For EMEAA, I'm willing to admit that the PS3 may outsell the 360, but it will be a close call, and Japan will help PS3 sales, but it's such a small market, I mean there is only 5-6 million total PS3's there. Americas is the largest market, and worldwide, I really doubt PS3 will outsell 360 this year simply because I think 360 will dominate Americas sales, and at least come close to tie PS3 EMEAA sales. I mean 360 most likely has dominant sales until Novemeber (GT5) in EMEAA, and PS3 will rebound in Novemeber and December, but even so it won't get that much more sales then 360.

Thats why I said EMEAA is iffy, it's debatable. I'm pro-360 for EMEAA simply because I don't think GT5 will be enough. Sales for GT5 will pick up slowly (at absolute best GT5 gets 5 million WW by the end of the year, more realistically 4 million, so thats like what 2-3 million EMEAA?), and Kinect will budge 360 sales a significant amount (maybe 1 million units sold, 200-300k from bundles in EMEAA). Halo still has a decent push in 360 sales in EMEAA largly thanks to UK, and the Slim Effect will stay until end of October. PS3 will outsell the 360 in November, but I don't know by how much, or if it will balance sales from 360's superiority from September/October.

Anyway, as for Wii, I have been hearing about this game called Wii Relax. Since most Wii titles franchises come with a peripheral, I am betting that will be the game that uses the Vitality sensor. However, it's not like Nintendo to surprise announce any games, it feels like thats a 2011 title. However Nintendo said before March 2011, so who knows. Didn't Wii Fit come out in Spring? Regardless I agree with you that Wii will dominate holidays sales. 360 may come close in specific regions (like US, or UK), but in general, Wii will own. Maybe not by as much as before, but I expect the Wii to sell 16 million units by the end of the year (it's at 8 now).

Yeah but I am not counting September or October...I am only counting November and December for Holiday sales and maybe the last week or 2 of October(Whatever the last 10 weeks are) Anyway nobody can know at this point for sure even though I still see P.S.3 ahead this Holiday...but at least we agree that Wii will win for sure.

Well I respectfully disagree, even if were just considering the last 10 weeks, I still think the 360 will come ontop. Regardless we agree on the Wii comming out on top.

P.S. I always consider September-October Holidays because in September software and hardware sales begin to pick up, and a lot of holiday titles begin to come out. Halo and Move are two big games for the holidays of 2010 to me. I mean in December, hardly any games are released, all the big games release from September-November, mostly in Novemeber.

However technically Holidays are the last 10 weeks of the year. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting fall.

P.S. Year end total sales, who do you think will sell better? 360 or PS3? PS3 is ahead by i think a little over 400k, but the 360 still has momentum from the Slim. I vote 360, but not by much, maybe a million at best.

P.S.3 is  ahead by 400K and should beat 360 this Holiday but even if it doesn't I don't think it can catch the 400K up so P.S.3 wins the year. I also see the 360 coming in #3 this Gen in the long run.

I disagree, I think 360 will beat the PS3 this holiday season by over 440k, so it will get more year end total sales.

I also really doubt that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in the long term life of both consoles. In the 4 years since PS3's launch the difference from the number of consoles sold grew in favor of 360 (From 5.3 million to 8.1 million). The only significant period where PS3 outsold the 360 was after the PS3 slim was released, and that only brought the difference back to the initial difference. Now the 360 has a Slim, Sony has no more cards to play. PS3 has Japan, and most likely EMEAA by a small margin, but the difference in consoles in Americas will more then suffice that difference. Even before the 360 slim launched, the 360 old SKU was outselling the PS3 Slim here, and in the UK.

Halo Reach will only effect America a lot while G.T.5 will effect all 3 regions by a good amount...Plus besides for Halo Reach and Kinect Microsoft didn't have many big games this year while Sony has had a good amount all year.

Well I just made a thread analysing Halo sales, and Halo games sell a lot better then Pre-orders because most people buy it off the shelf. No doubt GT5 will sell well, and push roughly as many consoles as Halo: Reach, but for fall 360 also has the Slim effect and Kinect. Move won't be that big.

Also 360 had many good games for 2010. Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Metro 2033, and Mass Effect 2 were the big ones. PS3 had Heavy Rain, God of War 3, MAG, ModNation Racers, and White Knight Chronicles. Please lets not debate the quality of HD console exclusives, everyone has their own preferences.

Oh Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like that I meant that 1st Party games are the ones that are system sellers most of the time and I thought Sony published/Released more games than Microsoft this year...and that could have some effect.  Also I don't think the Slim effect will last much longer in Others and it has already died in Japan and I don't expect the Slim Arcade to do much in Japan.

Do u want to compare Xbox Brand in others vs Japan ?? oh god people these days... haha

When did I say that...? All I said was that the 360 Slim won't do much for sales in Japan or Others this Holiday.



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Well PS3 and 360 both had some good exclusives for 2010, combined sales are about the same, and so are ratings. So many people on this thread think PS3 has had a better 2010 simply because of God of War 3, but Splinter Cell: Conviction got equal ratings, and was a really good game, hard to beleive it was a Tom Clancy title.

Anyway, I agree the Slim effect is dead in Japan, Japan is a lost market for Microsoft, but PS3 generally only gets a little over a million sales annually from that region, so it's not that big of a deal. The slim effect will also probably lose it's edge in EMEAA when GT5 comes out, so in EMEAA PS3 will probably have more sales annually as well. However Americas is still the largest region, one that is masivly dominated by Microsoft. The 360 has already outsold the PS3 3:2 here, with Kinect, Halo Reach, the slim effect, and limited edition bundles of Black Ops and Halo Reach, the 360 i likely to increase that lead.

Annual sales are only 440k apart in favor of PS3, mostly due to sales before the 360 Slim was released. This gap is still dimishing by 60k a week, and with Reach around the corner that sales difference will increase. Until GT5 Sony doesn't have much to offset this, and even then the 360 is likely to outsell the PS3 in Americas since Black Ops and Kinect come out the same week, both comming bundled with the console.

The sales difference may slightly favor PS3 in EMEAA, and severly favor the PS3 in Japan, but in Americas the 360 will either still outsell the PS3 by at least 1-2 million, probably more, and thats enough to make up for the loss of the EMEAA and Japan superiority.

I mean it's fine to believe GT5 will push PS3 consol sales, and retain PS3 superiority for 2010, but if it does the difference will be tiny, and I personally just really doubt it. Reach will push as many consoles, maybe not in EMEAA, but it will push soo many consoles in Americas, that it should still do the same as GT5. With Kinect bundles, the slim effect still working in EMEAA for now, and Americas until next year, Black Ops 360 bundles, and Halo Reach with limited bundles, Microsoft has many more sales boosters.

I respect your opinion that PS3 will outsell the 360 this holiday season, and outsell the 360 for 2010 annual sales, everyone is entited to their own opinion, and you have at least done some research to back up your claims. I just disagree. Neither of us is more right, the year is not done. So until 2011, I can't say you right or wrong, I can simply say my opinion is different, and I stand by my opinion.



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Well PS3 and 360 both had some good exclusives for 2010, combined sales are about the same, and so are ratings. So many people on this thread think PS3 has had a better 2010 simply because of God of War 3, but Splinter Cell: Conviction got equal ratings, and was a really good game, hard to beleive it was a Tom Clancy title.

Anyway, I agree the Slim effect is dead in Japan, Japan is a lost market for Microsoft, but PS3 generally only gets a little over a million sales annually from that region, so it's not that big of a deal. The slim effect will also probably lose it's edge in EMEAA when GT5 comes out, so in EMEAA PS3 will probably have more sales annually as well. However Americas is still the largest region, one that is masivly dominated by Microsoft. The 360 has already outsold the PS3 3:2 here, with Kinect, Halo Reach, the slim effect, and limited edition bundles of Black Ops and Halo Reach, the 360 i likely to increase that lead.

Annual sales are only 440k apart in favor of PS3, mostly due to sales before the 360 Slim was released. This gap is still dimishing by 60k a week, and with Reach around the corner that sales difference will increase. Until GT5 Sony doesn't have much to offset this, and even then the 360 is likely to outsell the PS3 in Americas since Black Ops and Kinect come out the same week, both comming bundled with the console.

The sales difference may slightly favor PS3 in EMEAA, and severly favor the PS3 in Japan, but in Americas the 360 will either still outsell the PS3 by at least 1-2 million, probably more, and thats enough to make up for the loss of the EMEAA and Japan superiority.

I mean it's fine to believe GT5 will push PS3 consol sales, and retain PS3 superiority for 2010, but if it does the difference will be tiny, and I personally just really doubt it. Reach will push as many consoles, maybe not in EMEAA, but it will push soo many consoles in Americas, that it should still do the same as GT5. With Kinect bundles, the slim effect still working in EMEAA for now, and Americas until next year, Black Ops 360 bundles, and Halo Reach with limited bundles, Microsoft has many more sales boosters.

I respect your opinion that PS3 will outsell the 360 this holiday season, and outsell the 360 for 2010 annual sales, everyone is entited to their own opinion, and you have at least done some research to back up your claims. I just disagree. Neither of us is more right, the year is not done. So until 2011, I can't say you right or wrong, I can simply say my opinion is different, and I stand by my opinion.

Yeah you could be right since Microsoft will crush Sony in America this year but overall I still stand by my opinion as well and say that P.S.3>360 this Holiday.